Bleach Chapter 471 Discussion
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- #43
As for Riruka, yes, I wouldn't say she was remorseful but not bored either.. She just realized that the outcome wasn't as expected.. At least she managed to snap out of her obsession.. But I don't see any reason for revenge or sorts from her flashback..
It was mentioned that this 'fullbring' is a contract.. Their actions might have something to do with this 'contract' rather than revenge..
Riruka couldn't stand looking at him anymore, well I guess you can't expect someone to love you when you trap them up like that.
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- #47
niedude said:
I can't believe I'm about to say this, but I liked the chapter up to the part the flashback ended.
When Riruka started spouting pure blasfemy, saying how Fullbringers were the lowest of the low, I had to scrounge up all my strength to keep from headesking.
Really? Fullbringers are the lowest of the low?
Says the girl that kidnapped a 20 year old guy when she was seven, and only let him go after he had just about starved and feared for his life.
Humans are the lowest of the low in Bleach. They can be walking the street one quiet monday evening, and whooosh, they're eaten by an invisible monster and sent to SS before they even realize it.
If the FUllbringers are calling the Shinigami hypocrite, then the joke's on them. By enforcing this inferiority syndrome on themselves just to make them feel outcast, different, and closer to each other all the while having this "misunderstood" aura they are doing no better than when the Shinigame use their pride and station to justify their society.
Its not inferiority.
What RIruka is saying is that INDIVIDUAL: strength means nothing.
You do not just survive because YOU are strong, you survive because of your surroundings. EVERYONE separately are just lumps of meat.
while in SS EVERYTHING is based upon one deciding everything.
If everyone individually is a peice of meat, then who are the predators? Analising each and every one, including oneself, as a weakling and going out of their way to show that they can't change this status quo is a HUGE example of an inferiority complex. It is quite obvious Riruka has one right now, but if I may sidetrack a little let me just say I don't think any of the other FBers have one. Anyway, as I was saying, if everyone is weak and a piece of meat, then who are the predatours?
Riruka says that the predators are the ones who band together and enforce their rule. That by itself is enough for me to rest my case, because it shows the full extent of her hypocrisy, since the FBers are trying to do the exact same in toppling Soul Society.
GrindPantera said:
Can anyone explain:
- why ichigo has a hard time kicking ginjous butt? was the self confidence just fake, since one of his arms is friggin burned (sorry last chapter this one..)
- if we should feel sorry for the fullbringers?
- why soul society helped ichigo regain his powers? is it really just because he helped the a lot?
- where is urahara and ishhin??????!!!!!
Also I want to thank Fai for his/her wonderful analyzes every week (jump to your komments everytime!), it really helps me understand what I don't get in the chapters (since I kinda read the chapters and feel like nothing important has happened...) Though I don't agree that Gin died since he dissapeared without a clue. BUT I agree with you that SS hides something from ichigo and I've concidered shinigamis from SS to be very evil that clears every mistake or problem they created by erasing the "enemy" from the picture. That's why I hate Jama-Jii, he orders ichigo around even if ichigo made better decisions than them! pretty ok chapter 3/5
Easy. To answer:
- Because Bleach fights make no sense power wise, and previously strong characters are somehow going head to head with weak characters, or vice versa.
- No. They brought this on themselves (with the exception of Jackie, who was the only one that seem to truly want to belong.)
- No one really knows for sure. For now, the official answer is yes, they gave him back his powers because he was of invaluable help to them.
- That is what the entire fandom is desperately wanting to know!
GrindPantera said:
Also I want to thank Fai for his/her wonderful analyzes every week (jump to your komments everytime!), it really helps me understand what I don't get in the chapters (since I kinda read the chapters and feel like nothing important has happened...)
DONT!
This is as good a lesson here as it is in real life. No matter what, NEVER blindly anticipate another's opinion just so you should have something to follow. That is pure irrationality and the single worst aspect of the human mentality, which has made it possible for totally incompetent yet charismatic figures to rise up the ranks and be considered leaders and figure heads when in reality they are nothing more than a hollow shell of a person.
If you read something and honestly believe that nothing did happen, then stick to that as an initial analysis. It is your own, and nothing will change that. However, and this may sound slightly antagonic, don't stick to that if, when in an educated discussion or any other type of debate or place where information is being trated, you see that someone does make a good point and in fact there is one opinion that seems to be more truthful, more logical, or more to your liking.
What is important is that you, yourself and no one else, build your own educated opinion and never try to follow someone else's just because the way they phrase this or deepen the meanings of that makes them sound smart!
- #48
And unless you have more arguments than "NO U!" please stop responding to my posts, ty.
Great Machuran, now you've spoiled my every week fun - reading these bleach threads(while not reading the actual manga for quite long). That quote means no "reading comprehension - you lack it" posts and no more "obvious" facts and theories of those blank/reaction/one-panel/ pages from mr. amusing this week. x/
But I guess I have to somewhat congratulate you for shutting up the biggest bleachtard(yeah, "7" my ass) on this forum x).
