Vampire Knight Chapter 89 Discussion

Orulyon said:
Lulexiaa said:
Orulyon said:
...(dunno if she is crying because she is losing her virginity or if its because she knows that might be the last time she will be with Kaname since she has plans to die in his place).



OHH NO!!! Why does she plan to die in his place? What would that solve? ;___; </3



She wants to make Kaname human (like her mother did with her, by giving her life to make her human). Like that Yuuki will stop Kaname from becoming the new parent.







Polychronicon said:
Demcrin said:
IchigoHollowfi said:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

OOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





I still believe in Yuuki x Zero D:!

This.



I still have hopes that they will end up together as well.



May be best if Zero never finds out his love was deflowered by one of his most despised enemies though.



I really cannot understand you guys. Are you Yuuki fans? because that is the only way I will understand why you still ship Zero with her. And Im not even talking about the sex scene with Kaname. Im talking about what she has been done to Zero through the WHOLE manga. She leaves him and then she cames back, she is unable to let him go and gives him hope. then she shatters that hope and does what Zero hates the most: behaves like a pureblood by stealing his memories.

For his own sake? Is that supposed to make me laugh? Stealing your memories is like erasing what you are. I have a lot of painful memories and I would never erase them. Our memories are who we are, we lose them, we lose ourselves. Taking away the memories of your most precious person is like taking half of your heart, leaving you incomplete forever. Not saying that Yuuki is not suffering, she is clearly, but she was fucking selfish.

If a person comes back to you ONLY when it doesnt have the other person at her side, that might be love, but clearly she loves the other the most, because she always returns to him.



Now as a Zero ultimate fan, I must say this: Does Zero deserves to be with a girl who is always running to other guy no matter the reason? Does Zero deserves to be with a girl that will only choose him if Kaname dies?

Does he deserves someone that will always have her heart divided and never love him whole heartedly?

Why to put a Zeki End if it has no logic at all? at all?????  Yume has more sense into it, even if I really dislike the pairing.

http://shizza24.tumblr.com/post/41276233477/story-of-a-story-suicide

That post resumes Yuuki´s attitudes. Read it if you´re willing to.

I feel sorry for Zero. I know she loves him. And she loves Kaname too. And she clearly made her choice without consulting Zero again, leaving him behind, again. She loves Kaname as a lover. You dont sleep with your brother like that. Also if it was really the case and she ended up loving him as a brother, that would make me hate her more than I do now. Sleeping with someone for pity makes you the worst, so I do hope she sees him as a lover and not a brother, otherwise it will be disgusting. There was a time I liked Yuuki. But her "confusion" let to extreme has been screwing up lives. That makes her disrespectful with other´s feelings.

For those who really understand how painful it is to lose the memories of your most loved one, you´ll understand my point. Its cruel. Zero has been a toy of purebloods all his life, I will rate this manga "1" if it has a Zeki ending. This coming from a Zeki fan who switched to Zero fan only right after Yuuki left with Kaname for the first time. Id rather see him alone forever.



This manga does not have logic at all for a long long time. Matsuri sensei really needs to clear up her ideas or stop being influenced by shitty Twilight.



http://shizza24.tumblr.com/post/41276233477/story-of-a-story-suicide



It's hard to put everything together considering the long wait between releases, but wow 0_0....after reading that tumblr yuki recap.......



to put it in a nice way:



- Yuki is a perpetually confused and flip-floppity lover <333



not so nice way:



- Yuki is a two-timing slut



but historically speaking in shoujo mangas, in every love triangle, a relationship can always recover from kisses.....sex, on the other hand, is kind of the ultimate determinant. Considering taking away a girl's first time represents staining her purity, Zeki is done. done. done. done. At this point, I would rather Zero forget about Yuki forever (we know that's not going to happen) and get together with Yori.

Ugh, the development leading up to Yuuki sleeping with Kaname was awful. So was the complete 180. Disappointed.

ragingx said:


Page? (Again I've got MMO running and another manga open so not much time to go page hopping)



And if he dies then its not invalid, he gets to be with ancestress and Zero gets to be with Yuuki.



He's indulging her again (like a big brother would) and incest isn't a big deal to them anyway. But if you (not literally you but anyone who says it) say that Zero is just a 'best friend' to Yuuki then I'll say that Kaname treats her like a little sister. Basic point is: don't degrade Zeki by saying they don't have romantic love and you'll get no response from me. Though I do honestly believe that this explains his constant spoiling her and trying to push her onto a path he thinks is best for her, regardless of what she thinks, and in this sense makes me dislike Kaname a little less since big brothers are supposed to dote on and spoil their little sisters.  





It's on pages 28 and 29



The idea that big brothers are supposed to dote on and spoil their little sisters is a bit idealistic to me but that's probably because my own brother has never treated me this way and I've never come across a big brother that does treat his little sister this way in real life. To me a big brother-little sister relationship is more like Ichigo and his little sisters where he cares about them but they bicker on occasion. Probably why I've never seen Kaname and Yuuki as having a big brother little sister relationship :\\

That was too short! I want more of Kaname X Yuki moment!

LittleStar said:
I dropped this manga, long time ago...

now I saw pictures on tumblr from this chapter and...



THIS IS GREAT!

Zero forget about Yuuki,

so now he can kill her and Kaname without regrets!

and end up with better girl than Yuuki!



I shipped Zeki, even I hated Yuuki, I shipped her with Zero,

because he love her, now when he forget about her



I totally ok with this!

I wish he could find someone better than her and now

when he forget about her can focus and find someone better! *.*



Really! I so happy!

Now Hino-san let somebody to kill Kaname and Yuuki and you can finish this manga already.

true , even though she loved 0 , she would always choose akname over him . at first when i came to know abt the manga . i too felt that 0 and yuki must be together .but as i  started reading the manga, i felt that yuki was leaching on zeros love for her . istarted hating her , but now , i think that we cant blame her bcoz even she cant control the feelings of her heart .even though she loves zero . she would always place kaname higher than  him in terms of everything .even hino says that they were beasts madly in love and that yuki and kanme will always be connected allthe time , be it in the past or the future ..even if they are apart their hearts will always be connected  . i wish that zero got together with somee human girl after being turned into human (yuki would never love him like he loved her )

Kaname_NA said:
ragingx said:


He's indulging her again (like a big brother would) and incest isn't a big deal to them anyway. But if you (not literally you but anyone who says it) say that Zero is just a 'best friend' to Yuuki then I'll say that Kaname treats her like a little sister. Basic point is: don't degrade Zeki by saying they don't have romantic love and you'll get no response from me. Though I do honestly believe that this explains his constant spoiling her and trying to push her onto a path he thinks is best for her, regardless of what she thinks, and in this sense makes me dislike Kaname a little less since big brothers are supposed to dote on and spoil their little sisters.  





Haha this is incredibly funny. Do you think it's normal for your older brother to want /desire you to have long hair and wear cute little high heels? HAHA



He's asserting his power over her for his little happinesses to visually please him because she's his woman and you don't just use power over someone like that because you think of them as a sister lol



btw that thing about him recognising her eyes is because of Yuuki going back to his past and him seeing a "vision of the future", his feelings for her are real and can't be compared to the ancestress lady. I used to think that maybe he did still love her after wanting to take over her job and let her rest but I think that was his self-destructiveness manifestating itself once more because he had come to believe that Yuuki's happier with Zero or loves Zero more, and she has had a hard time convincing him of otherwise. Hope he knows now xD



When did I ever say this first part? If anything this would be more objectifying than romantic. It is however normal for a big brother to spoil, speak softly, and try to do what he thinks is best for his little sister. At least if I had a little sister this is how I'd be towards her, as opposed to my lover. tl;dr: I'd spoil my sister but not my lover.



She's no one's woman, nor is any woman any man's property. Do you really think its love to try and make someone over to fit your liking? I personally accept the one I care about as she is and wouldn't want to change her a bit as I'd hope she would me.



In certain ways Yuuki is happier with Zero, in other ways she's happier with Kaname. These don't mean one is per se better than the other. Zero is a tsundere and Kaname is a deredere thus have two different roles they play and very misleading trying to compare them. I personally prefer a tsundere as you have to actually earn their love and affection since they hide under layers upon layers of protection and when they finally do tell you they love you its for real and is an undying resolve but I accept that this is just my preference, this isn't meant to imply any degradation to deredere fans.



The ancestress was his first love long before he ever even met Yuuki, considering it was the true ancestor Kaname before his reincarnation. This isn't to say that he doesn't love Yuuki, its to say that she isn't the only one for him (similar to how Maria and Yori are mentioned as alternates for Zero) and honestly if people's bad feelings are right and he is going to die would you rather he be alone or with his first love? In this way I'm actually trying to show some compassion towards Kaname, which is hard for me to do.

Fine Yuuki go with Kaname fan girls of Zero, Zero is ours!!!

Eventhough I got mad she actually slept with Kaname ugh incest bitch.

I still go for Zeki.

Not confused but she gives in to Kaname fast( ok and they have sex) wow -_-

1 thing fou sure~ i could not wait for the new chapter now.. :3



lol Zero is going to the old Kuran's house where Yuki and Kaname is doing "something" in the bed.. x3 (sorry about me fangirling here~) <3 <3