Vampire Knight Chapter 89 Discussion
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- #131
Kaname is my favorite. ( Zero is really sexy, but Kaname is my type) I like Yuuki too. Kaname x Yuuki... I`m glad! ^^ I like you xD Even though we differ on who we root for at least you're not making a mile long list about how Kaname is the best or is her 'true love' and is a poor tragic misunderstood person. For the record (for anyone that saw the multiple posts that said the same thing) I hate I assume the lag issue =.=
- #132
The basic gist of what I got was that yuki realized she had feelings for zero, then for some reason takes away his memories of her "for his own good". The brother who she had sworn to stop finally makes a reappearance and lamely gives up his charade, and yuki runs back to her brother and proceeds to have sex with him.
Sooo, yuki loved kaname all along? and didnt feel the same way about zero? that's kinda what it looks like here.....and I'm ashamed to say that I had absolutely no idea until yuki and kaname did the dirty dirty. Even while reading the actual words, the mangaka never portrays any semblance of emotion with the characters.
And now finally we have our OTP, great. Zero, stop torturing yourself with yuki and find a nicer girl. Yuki and kaname, have a nice eternity together, or jump into the furnace together, or watever.
- #133
Ive been reading this manga until now for the very reason of Zero being there. I started as a Kaname disliker, to later become as Yuuki disliker and nowadays I dont hate Kaname at all, just Yuuki. I cannot stop but thinking that the Kurans are really selfish. Kaname did what he wanted without telling Yuuki and wants to sacrifice himself for the good of humanity because of the ancestress. Bringing your fiancée to live with you almost two years and then suddenly "oh fuck, I need to push her away and run away after all, all in secrecy!" is a very bad attitude.
"Im glad you chose me" (instead of Zero) said Kaname once. And then he goes and remembers the ancestress and leaves the girl he swore to live with for the eternity since only a pureblood can live that much (Zero will never live as much as a pureblood). But okay.
What really pisses me off is Yuuki. Im not going to repeat everything that was in the link of tumblr I left in my previous post. There is a limit to everything. She already is over the limit.
Zero losing his memories was so painful that I wanted to cry. Loosing your memories is really painful. Now...
If Zero comes to remember her it will be much more painful than it already was because:
- He will see his most precious trying to die FOR his rival.
- He will obviously recall that she ERASED his memories even when he begged with all his heart to keep them.
Another fantastic thing to make Zero suffer more.
And Technically its not cheating but to all those with a little bit of decency:
You dont search for your fiancée, say you belong to him and then kiss other guy.
You dont kiss that guy, say that you love him and then return to your fiancée and go to sleep with him.
There is a thing called "breaking up" (aka, talk to your lover and make things clear, otherwise its considered two-timing).
She never stopped being Kaname´s fiancée. And when she went to Zero, she didnt really "broke up" with Zero.
I bet the end will be Zero remembering everything because, guess what, he is gonna guard the Kurans together with Kaito. Yuuki wants to die, Kaname wants to die...
Now, I think Zero will want to die too when he remembers everything.
Ok, bring it on, the final chapters, Im ready to finish this mexican telenovella.
- #134
I'm disappointed, Hino-sensei.
This manga had a great start. I bought the first volumes and planned to buy the others, but not anymore. Somehow this kind of story telling is not worth anymore. I wonder if I should drop the serie...and not just because - right now - Yuuki ended up with Kamane, but since this story - in a way - can not be followed and enjoyed. By me, at least.
I thought that Hino Matsuri is better than this. :( Well, I still think she is a talented mangaka. :) But if she does not like this manga anymore, she should end it already and start a new one.
- #135
Yuuki erased Zero's memory after that and went to Kaname (even this?), after knowing that he was jealous of Aidou bodyguarding Yuuki that he did "that" to him. I don't ship any pairs anymore (that means I don't want Kaname x Yuki either).
I look forward to Zero's (or even Yuuki's) reaction during his next mission.
- #136
Angeleyes991 said:
To me this chapter is tying lose ends and of course stating important things.
1) The most important part is that Yuuki erased Zero's memories in order to "save him". I believe Zero's hunger was killing him because he only desired Yuuki and her love when he doesn't get it, he is basically starving. Also, by disappearing from Zero's life, i feel that Yuuki is no longer attached and is free to return to Kaname without worrying about Zero.
2) It felt to fast the moment when kaname and Yuuki finally give into there love, it seems as though the whole relationship will end up horribly.
3) Finally! The final villain has appear, the Toumas!
4)Aido's dad is alive! Big shocker there! ~sarcasm~
I really am trying to put together the whole manga but its been very difficult. Please don't give up on the manga because its really good. Just got to look deeper to understand all the psychological warfare in it!
Pretty much agree with most of the above quote.
It's part of the reason I am still holding out a sliver of hope for Zeki. I'm not delusional either >_> There are definitely ways it could work.
Some reasons:
#1) He said; "If you don't know where your heart belongs, I'll show you- if your ok with someone like me" <-- She's a very confused teenager. Now, I'm not saying I agree with what they did. However I can see her deciding that, after that, she didn't love him in that way.
#2) I think she loves Zero as a lover. And Kaname as a brother. It's clear he cares for her but seems to have already given up on her romantically, from my pov anyway.
Mainly what makes me believe this the most is the small convo between page 33 and 34. To me, that sounds like a confused girl in love but no longer sure who she is in love with, or what her feelings for Kaname are. And outside forces aren't helping her confusion any.
#3) Page 40, where the scene that's being talked about most is, the close up of her face looks (to me) like a girl who has had a realization and isn't too happy with it. That could be interpreted any number of ways, I agree.
But that's my take on it. She doesn't look the least bit happy to me, I think she's regretting what she's doing as she's doing it and realizing who she really loves.
#4) Kaname's plan may be to ultimately bite her, and remove her memories of himself, then leave before she wakes up. If he were to do that, I think I may start to love him again. She said it herself, he could have erased her memories of Zero, but in saying that, she might have given him an idea about erasing himself instead, it's just a thought, but one I really love, even though I can already see a few ways that would also turn into a disaster.
The situation she was last in, that would get her to let her guard down completely, even if she decided she loved Zero as a lover, and Kaname as a brother.
I can understand how Zero lovers (Which I am one) can hate her easily for her choices and that's fine, we're all entitled to our opinions. However, I think she shouldn't be hated because she's portrayed as a confused girl. I think Hino is drawing it out far too much honestly though in her attempt to make Yuuki seem real.
When she tries to make things better- she seems to make Yuuki's situation 10 x's worse.
However, I can still see a number of ways each character can change the situation for the better.
I can also see some that would make things appallingly worse.
Until I see her say firmly in a chapter and make the motions to back up what she says, who she loves one way or the other, or until she's dead, or until she does something to make me lose any hope or faith in the character, I will continue to give her the benefit of the doubt.
I can't bring myself to like Kaname again. I did once. But he has done very little to make me go back to liking him.
I like Yuuki and Zero both.
But I don't necessarily want to see the characters together as things stand.
I'm just stating my reasoning for not hating or giving up on her.
At the moment, I think pairings of Zero x Yori; Aidou x Yuuki and Kaname x Furnace are more to my liking.... but again, thats just my opinion.... and there is the Zero x Yuuki Pairing that I always loved. That I would only be happy about if it twisted a bit more into something where it would seem natural for them.
True lol kaname x furnance? Wow ...
It's too bad thought I can't stop lyking kaname no matter how much I try.... He's stuck in ma head they way an actual person I have feelings for should be stuck in ma head ..... I'm not crazy
- #137
I´m so shocked right now.