Bleach Chapter 509 Discussion

Fai said:
As guessed, this Juha is not the final boss. I guess blondie is. Or, as even more plot-twisty twist - Ryuuken is.

You could also be right, if the real Juha isn't the guy behind the sword from ch 500 (as far as I know nobody in HM has the power to cut Kirge in half or make Urahara shit brix so it isn't grimmjow) or it could just be the blodie.



Well the clues are kinda pointing towards his direction since after Byakuya died, he was the first to notice from what Kubo pointed out








while fake Juha could even sense shit as he had to hear about it from his 'subordinate'








And the way he's talking about yama on this page where he's referring to his original name








But then again, that could be just Kubo playing the troll setting the stage up for another mindfuck










But I hope it's not him...i dunno, I just don't want another pretty-boy boss....he looks like a pansy and it would make Ichigo look bad by slapping a girly guy around silly.

eh? there fight is over already?  ...



Shiznat said:
Hmmm I'm a bit skeptical about this chapter.



I can't quite place my uneasiness about Juha being ''dead''



Lets hope he stays that way lol.



Good chapter overall though.



Same here.



Still waiting on Ichigo and to see who that mystery person was a few months ago that showed up infront of Kisuke. And of course to see if Byakuya really is gone. :'I

Gekizoku said:
Tragichero92 I am thinking the same thing. Blondie and Juha switched places somehow. Also, in response to Candor, I don't think that font is to portray him shouting, more like its just emphasis on the implications of those words ( that this isn't the real Juha Bach).  Other things have just been declared in bleach with a similar style of writing.



I'm on the same boat, though since the blondie seems to be the 2nd in command I'm not reaaally sure if he's the replacement. Other than that I agree 100% with this interpretation

dumbass yamato giving away ALL aspects of his bankai immediately. now the fakes gonna rotate out and the real juha's gonna steal yamato's bankai

yamamoto, what a beast...

It was predictable that he wasn't the final guy considering how scared he was last chapter but its best it went this way; i wonder tho how Yamamoto couldn't tell the difference tho...i mean i know his immense power doesn't mean amazing perception; but you would think that he could notice that he was being trolled by a fake.

Kanic said:
Candor said:
The guy who died is Juha Bach, the problem is with the translation, here's the last page again from mangastream:




Juha Bach's "I'm sorry" ended with point, which means his sentence ended, the last black panel was a voice he heard while he's dying/closing his eyes, someone was yelling "Juha Bach-sama", probably that blonde Quincy. The font is obviously yelling, not a man's word while dying. I think mangapanda did a mistake again..



Woot? Strangely enough both reader and streamer seem to coincide (for once, kakakaka...I didn't say that ). Anyway, check the ending text: "What is the meaning behind ...blah blah". If the sentence was simply "I'm sorry, I wasn't strong enough" then why the f8ck should I think about what is the meaning behind them? He's sad cuz he lost..end of story. But if Juha himself says"I"m sorry Juha Bach-sama" then it makes sense.



Tried to find a raw to confirm wether what Candor said is true or not but I couldn't find it (How stupid is that when the TL version is out fucking everywhere?).

Candor said:
..Skipped..



Don't let Mal get to you bros. But truth be told the dudes that were bashing bleach a couple of chapters back may not be the same as the ones bashing it now. Just wait.



Aaaanyway, in answer to trafal-guy: Yamamoto is nearing death, THAT much is a given, would YOU prefer him to die without showing us his full potential, without making himself memorable(even through power alone). If he had died without proving WHY is he the No1 Captain then his titile so far would have been m e a n i n g l e s s. Also, the fact that he is going all out means that he fell for Juha's trap. And THRIDLY AND MOST IMPORTANLY his power will be STOLEN not destroyed, which means that this sheer badassery will most likely make a comback.



Zhou said:


Aizen is a frikkin' monster, more than possible. As for Yoruichi, does she even have a zanpakutou, we have never seen it or did I miss it? If she has one, I would say it's possible.



On top of that, we still have Kyouraku, Ukitake, Unohana, Isshin, even Urahara, we have no idea how strong they are in the end, I wouldn't count them out.



I'll ask again, does the fact that we never saw those bankais mean that Juha doesn't have any data on them or SOME sort of standars through which he concluded which are the 5 W.P.? I mean can we  say that the only reason people are  considering Kyoraku/Shunsui/Yoruichi/Urahara is cuz we have never been shown their Bankai, so what?