Bleach Chapter 509 Discussion

Meh. Lots of talking and useless boasting by Yamamoto; he could have just killed him right away. But this is Bleach.



Trafl-guy said:
I just don't see the point of the last 4 chapters, I mean either one of Yama's bankai directions could've taken them out but Kubo decided to reveal them all at once leaving little to the imagination and it turns out none of them are that impressive not to mention one of them is of course another getsuga motherfucking tenshou.

It had no real story, and not a very good fight. Just some good artwork and Yama being "epic".I agree.



Candor said:
wait what was Aizen's bankai? I don't think we saw his Bankai, so that could be it.Maybe he doesn't have one? He didn't need one to become captain, he could just fake with his shikai.



Allecto said:
I'm thinking the fifth could be Unohana.I'm surprised this came so late.

I mean pretty much everyone backs off when she wants something (including Aizen and Kenpachi) and she's the one who has no problem disagreeing with Yamamoto or walking right into Central 46.

It looks like mangapanda's version won the debate today. That guy is Juha Bach, therefore Yamamoto recognized him, the Quincy were also calling him your majesty and the king and stuff like that, so he is without a doubt Juha Bach. However, while looking around I found something interesting; Juha Bach's name's reference is not Johann Sebastian Bach, but his son Johann Christoph Friedrich Bach, aka the "Bückeburg Bach", as a reference to the city he used to live in. If Kubo is referencing the Bach family as a whole then what Bach meant with "Juha Bach-sama" is none other than his father.

Candor said:


It's either that or the other Juha Bach is not a person. Remember that double spread we talked about in the discussion thread for ch.500? the one where Ichigo and Aizen are flying toward "something" that looks like Juha Bach..?



Hmmm, I'm not sure what you are trying to say. That shadow looks pretty much like the Juha Bach we know so him being dead is a little controversial with what you are saying in this post...



BUT, with a little more thinking I realised that you refered to him as "something"

and it struck me, maybe this Juha Bach is something like a part of the original's consiousness. I think that if you are right with what you are saying about the names then in a sense this Juha Bach who is now dead would be the original's offspring, again in an abstract sense and not in the literary parent-child as you proposed. But him not being a person as you said might be plausible, and a tad more original than the dead Juha being an illussion.

Trexx25 said:


^Just which direction has he not shown yet? I thought he has spent all his directions.



My bad, after reading it for a second time he did use all his directions.

I forgot that the first form of his bankai was a direction at all, thought it was the normal state before he used any direction.