Bleach Chapter 509 Discussion

Yama-ji is badass.

i don't understand what dead means in this manga, since people become souls and then can they die again? and if so then what happens? the logic was never properly explained. still i didn't know grandpa-shiginami would be such a dirty fighter

Candor said:
Kaien is Ukitake's XVC btw, not Shunsui's.



A yeah, my fault. I thought the name was Ukitake Shunsui and Kyoraku something. Got the names wrong.XD

Well in next chapter i hope Rukia does then Bleach would be number 1. LOL



I hope we go back to Urahara next week.

Candor said:
I've been wondering about these pages in addition to a sketch from repeat & reboot I can't find now (a guy with spiky hair's sketch). The first guy your post looks like a Quincy, Hiyori smelled a Shinigami, so I'm not sure it's the same guy, but one of these 2 (if they're not the same person) is probably the one who attacked Kirge, since as I mentioned previously opening a Garaganta is not simple and few are those who know how to open one.



About Bach's theory, I think I'll put it aside for now since there are still some mysteries and I'll think of the original Juha Bach as a person or just a mystery until we get further plot-points. As many people mentioned, the blondie will be the one to take control of things for now, he's not a normal subordinate after-all.



Yeah but since the true Juha has been alive for more than a thousand years we can safely say he's a shinigami and since both shinigami and quincy are teachings there's no reason why a soul who learned the shinigami teachings can't learn the quincy ones as well.



Hyori did smell a shinigami yes but it was prob his shinigami part...has Hyori even "smelled" a quincy before?



I no, then what she smelled was only "half" of him sort of speak and since the guy is both he prob found a way to open garagantas as his ass pleases.



Yamamoto did recognize the fake Juha as Juha but who's to say when the war broke down, this guy didn't just stood in the shadows and ordered fake Juha back then to fight Yamamoto so that we would remain unknown.



Kubo needs an ultimate villain to end this arc and what better boss than half shinigami and half quincy....he prob even has hollow powers.



And like Grimmm pointed out that guy looks like the guy in the middle








As for the blondie, he's prob this guy's right hand and the overseer of the "invasion"...he'll most likely take his leave once all the "pawns" die.

The fake Yuha Bach died, now it's time for the real one to make his move.

Kanic said:
Zhou said:


I as a reader am considering one or two of those guys as possible war potentials because we don't know how capable they are, why shouldn't I?



First things first If I seemed aggresive I apologise. I just think it like this:



Kenpachi without a Bankai is a captain, Yamamoto is obviously worlds apart from other captains. The third WP is ichigo who, well, is ichigo. These 3 seem to define a class of power that they (along with Aizen) belong. I understand that  Shunsui and Kyoraku are considered among the strongest captains(since they are also the oldest and Yama's prized pupils) but other than that we have no particular evidence in terms of potential. Heck, since they are THAT old they might have no further potential at all. Also excludin them from the list makes it easier to come up with names that fill the criteria.



I agree with you on what you're saying about Kenpachi, Yamamoto, Ichigo and Aizen. They do seem to be in a completely separate class of power. Even if we consider the Vizard captains, I don't think their bankai would be in the same league.



I'm thinking the fifth could be Unohana. We have no idea if her bankai has an offensive ability as well as  healing one, it's form could really surprise us. Not sure about Yoruichi now. Without a zanpakutou she's strong, but not in the same league as Kenpachi. I really hope we get some answers as to why she doesn't use it.

Fai said:
Candor said:
Kanic said:
I don't really understand who are you refering to as the spiky-hair guy. Someone we know? Maybe kaien(X-Vice captain of Shunsui, you youself said we will learn something about him and why he looks like Ichigo)I wasn't really refering to anyone with that picture, I was just wondering who that guy is. He's probably a new character (nakama?) that'll appear in the new set of characters we'll get soon. I doubt he's Kaien, his hair is too bizarre for being Kaien lol, he's short too. Kaien is Ukitake's XVC btw, not Shunsui's.



Its ichigo's original character design back then when Kubo wanted Bleach to be about guns and aliens. Ah ok, thanks for clearing that.