Vinland Saga Chapter 196 Discussion
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UaEfAlCoN83 said:
Marinate1016 said:
Ryuseishun said:
Damn, fuck Ivar. He and his people acting out solely out of self interest.
Anyways, quite an abrupt turn of events. What will Thorfinn do now?
Overall not a bad chapter at all to say the least, but I can understand people getting upset by this.
Why would it be fuck ivar? He saved thorfinn lol
He didn't because Thorfinn could defend himself easily. Also, the tribe did not hear what the old man said, and they weren't close enough to see what was happening. They will definitely misinterpret what happened because they don't know the details, only the outcome. The safest option was for Thorfinn to dodge or hold the old man's hand.
Nah, I’m with ivar on this one. The guy was in front of everyone lifting an axe.
I am not saying he was 100% wrong, but we are talking here about tribal people.
Tribes are known to stand with their people even if they were the ones who instigated hostility.
Thorfinn dealt with people before bare hands ... why wouldn't he be able to deal with some old man?
- #3
UaEfAlCoN83 said:
Marinate1016 said:
UaEfAlCoN83 said:
Marinate1016 said:
UaEfAlCoN83 said:
Marinate1016 said:
Ryuseishun said:
Damn, fuck Ivar. He and his people acting out solely out of self interest.
Anyways, quite an abrupt turn of events. What will Thorfinn do now?
Overall not a bad chapter at all to say the least, but I can understand people getting upset by this.
Why would it be fuck ivar? He saved thorfinn lol
He didn't because Thorfinn could defend himself easily. Also, the tribe did not hear what the old man said, and they weren't close enough to see what was happening. They will definitely misinterpret what happened because they don't know the details, only the outcome. The safest option was for Thorfinn to dodge or hold the old man's hand.
Nah, I’m with ivar on this one. The guy was in front of everyone lifting an axe.
I am not saying he was 100% wrong, but we are talking here about tribal people.
Tribes are known to stand with their people even if they were the ones who instigated hostility.
Thorfinn dealt with people before bare hands ... why wouldn't he be able to deal with some old man?
For sure they’ll side with their people but I’m not gonna slate ivar, for defending thorfinn. Thorfinn hasn’t fought in years.
Even if he didn't fight in years, it doesn't change the fact that he can deal with this. You might not be totally in shape but you are still capable.
I am against what Ivar did because the whole point of the trip to Vinland is to build a peaceful country. However Ivar had the mentality of a warrior and didn't really care about the peace part and was focusing more on going to a fertile land.
Anyways, I like where the story is going because it shows how difficult is to create a land of peace
You’re entitled to your opinion
The real question is what are the consequences of what just happened? not what was supposed to happen
Ivar's group might start attacking the tribe in the name of self defense, but the tribe already has tools used for hunting, which are technically weapons.
I think the tension will build up slowly ... the tribe will take the old man back home, then they will argue among themselves whether to kick out the Nords or not.
- #4
Damn, fuck Ivar. He and his people acting out solely out of self interest.
Anyways, quite an abrupt turn of events. What will Thorfinn do now?
Overall not a bad chapter at all to say the least, but I can understand people getting upset by this.
Why would it be fuck ivar? He saved thorfinn lol
- #9
UaEfAlCoN83 said:
Marinate1016 said:
Ryuseishun said:
Damn, fuck Ivar. He and his people acting out solely out of self interest.
Anyways, quite an abrupt turn of events. What will Thorfinn do now?
Overall not a bad chapter at all to say the least, but I can understand people getting upset by this.
Why would it be fuck ivar? He saved thorfinn lol
He didn't because Thorfinn could defend himself easily. Also, the tribe did not hear what the old man said, and they weren't close enough to see what was happening. They will definitely misinterpret what happened because they don't know the details, only the outcome. The safest option was for Thorfinn to dodge or hold the old man's hand.
Nah, I’m with ivar on this one. The guy was in front of everyone lifting an axe.
The thing is, his action might be "objectively right", it might objectively be "self-defense", but it's important to consider motivation. It was made abundantly clear from his previous actions, his mentality, and his very expression while cutting the hand, that Ivar did not do this out of a desire to protect Thorfinn. He was waiting for an excuse, the slightest mistake to justify his violence. He did not do this for self-defense. He was just too insecure to be peaceful with the Lnu. But most of all, he was bloodthirsty.
It doesn't help that we as the audience know that if he had just let everything go down without interference, things would've gone smoothly and there could have been an opportunity for discussion between Thorfinn and the shaman.
- #10
Marinate1016 said:
UaEfAlCoN83 said:
Marinate1016 said:
UaEfAlCoN83 said:
Marinate1016 said:
Ryuseishun said:
Damn, fuck Ivar. He and his people acting out solely out of self interest.
Anyways, quite an abrupt turn of events. What will Thorfinn do now?
Overall not a bad chapter at all to say the least, but I can understand people getting upset by this.
Why would it be fuck ivar? He saved thorfinn lol
He didn't because Thorfinn could defend himself easily. Also, the tribe did not hear what the old man said, and they weren't close enough to see what was happening. They will definitely misinterpret what happened because they don't know the details, only the outcome. The safest option was for Thorfinn to dodge or hold the old man's hand.
Nah, I’m with ivar on this one. The guy was in front of everyone lifting an axe.
I am not saying he was 100% wrong, but we are talking here about tribal people.
Tribes are known to stand with their people even if they were the ones who instigated hostility.
Thorfinn dealt with people before bare hands ... why wouldn't he be able to deal with some old man?
For sure they’ll side with their people but I’m not gonna slate ivar, for defending thorfinn. Thorfinn hasn’t fought in years.
Even if he didn't fight in years, it doesn't change the fact that he can deal with this. You might not be totally in shape but you are still capable.
I am against what Ivar did because the whole point of the trip to Vinland is to build a peaceful country. However Ivar had the mentality of a warrior and didn't really care about the peace part and was focusing more on going to a fertile land.
Anyways, I like where the story is going because it shows how difficult is to create a land of peace
You’re entitled to your opinion
- #12
Taito10 said:
UaEfAlCoN83 said:
Marinate1016 said:
UaEfAlCoN83 said:
Marinate1016 said:
Ryuseishun said:
Damn, fuck Ivar. He and his people acting out solely out of self interest.
Anyways, quite an abrupt turn of events. What will Thorfinn do now?
Overall not a bad chapter at all to say the least, but I can understand people getting upset by this.
Why would it be fuck ivar? He saved thorfinn lol
He didn't because Thorfinn could defend himself easily. Also, the tribe did not hear what the old man said, and they weren't close enough to see what was happening. They will definitely misinterpret what happened because they don't know the details, only the outcome. The safest option was for Thorfinn to dodge or hold the old man's hand.
Nah, I’m with ivar on this one. The guy was in front of everyone lifting an axe.
I am not saying he was 100% wrong, but we are talking here about tribal people.
Tribes are known to stand with their people even if they were the ones who instigated hostility.
Thorfinn dealt with people before bare hands ... why wouldn't he be able to deal with some old man?
Ivar doesnt know that Thorfinn can fight and he doesnt know his past. Thorfinn is just a pacifist person for Ivar.
Makes sense .. maybe I don’t remember to be honest. Don’t they know he became the leader of Jormsvikings?
Im not sure, but imo they dont know.
