- #58
kizu-kun said:
The characters were poorly handled and we don't even know WHY it occurred in the first place!
Well, its good that we have 10 years of this manga for that then, eh? :)
kizu-kun said:
Not once did they state why Xcution needed or wanted to get stronger by stealing ichigo's fullbring which is a major plot hole.
The reasosn why Execution was doing it was explained.
kizu-kun said:
How do you go an entire arc without giving any of the characters motive?
Motives were given and explained - Ginjou used a bunch of lonely people whose lives were destroyed by their powers, in order to lead a personal vendetta against something Soul Society did to him after he found out badge's purpose. Not once did they say "Our goal is to take down SS." It was obvious that Ginjou hated them but the never said what they planned on using ichigo's powers for. And I'm pretty sure Ginjou, having worked for SS in the past is smart enough to know that he can't take them on with a rag-tag group of 6 weak humans. Again, leaving gaps open in the plot of a past arc that's pretty much been rapped up is not good story telling. Something like that should not have been saved for later, but instead told WHILE it's happening. Even if kubo does try to clear up what happened then in this current arc it's already to late. The story is focused on new plot points and mysteries/ filling in the more important gaps from other pasts arcs.
Fai said:
kizu-kun said:
And let's not forget all the other mistreated characters like Chad and Orihime who were main characters in the beginning but are now pretty much irrelevant.
Chad and Orihime are still main characters. if anything, fullbring arc showcased and hinted that they have both gotten more powers, but have yet to show it - namely Orihime still has multiple hairpin combinations, not to mention the attack that was interrupted and the attack that did go uninterrupted ended up wounding Ginjou. Chad was pretty much built up as someone who has not reached his peak yet too and we never saw the results of his training yet.Both these characters get less and less screen time despite their "main character staus" and all of there developement goes to waste. Orihime seemingly manned up during the arrancar arc and even said things like, "I'll never get in ichigo's the way again." or "I'm going to destory the hogyoku and ruin aizen's plan!". But what did she do when times got tough? cry.... just totally reverted back to the crybaby she was in the beginning. Same thing happened in the fullbringer arc where her and chad say they've been training so that they will no longer be a burden then immediately do the opposite and become hostages to be used against ichigo. They've had plenty of opportunities to show off what they can do and how they grown but always end up regressing or needing to be saved by someone else.
Fai said:
kizu-kun said:
OR certain WTF moments like how they gave byakuya multiple over dramatic "I'm about to die, this is my final request" scenes and then a chapter later he's alive and making a full recovery.
Welcome to every shonen series ever created. Over dramatic "will ___ DIE NOW???!?! of course not!" scenes are the essence of this genre. Don't worry. Kubo will make sure to tell you when character does indeed die. Just because it happens in other mangas doesn't mean it's good or that kubo has to put it in his. Characters being brought back after something that was clearly fatal is really a BAD quality that most shonen manga's share.
fai said:
kizu-kun said:
OOOOR how Aizen, the genius tactician who pretty much been in control of this story from day1, lost to ichigo because he was suddenly overcome with the worst case of hubris I've ever seen and refused to use his zanpakuto which would have assured his victory.
And yet it was perfectly in-character for Aizen and his motives. For someone who had no one equal to him and who played around with everyone, its only normal to underestimate others. Also we do not even know on if his sword would have even worked on Ichigo's mixed kettle of power sources and near infinite reiatsu. Add to it his motives and the fact that he NEEDS Ichigo to reach the King's Realm(Since Ichigo is the key he was making) and you have plenty of reasons on why he would act all emotional and irrational.It has NEVER been in Aizen's character act recklessly, panic in battle, and discard his main trump card. Why would he go "mad with power" all of a sudden when he was already insanely strong to begin with. Being overpowered was nothing new to him. And the fact that ichigo's power level jumped passed aizen's level by some very vague and nonsense method of discarding his spiritual is ass-pull at it's finest. It doesn't make sense, it wasn't explained, AND it was never ever hinted that something like that was even possible in the world of bleach. Also there's no reason to believe Aizen's hypnosis wouldn't work on ichigo just becuase he has mutipul reiatsu types. lol And please cite where they said that Aizen planned on making ichigo into the king's key. Clearly that's just one of your made up theories
