Bleach Chapter 544 Discussion
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Wannabiteme said:
Han-yuu said:
I feel sorry for Urahara. He's the one character in whole series who got so much potential to go against anyone but all he do is sit there and watch things from sidelines and train those useless bunch of characters who get KO'd in one page every single time. It's like he have no actual participation in the story except telling few things like narrator when needed.
That's why he is still alive. I don't think that he can 'power up' like Ichigo to avoid deaths, or like Aizen.
If Chad and Orihime can avoid death, and are alive and kicking, and can 'power up'. Why the hell he can't? Are you sure we're talking about Urahara?
But how they do this? Do they defeat some 'main antagonist' at some part of manga? I don't think so.
Urahara would be another 'person with hidden potential' like Kenpachi.
Mayuri, Urahara.. Aizen... they all are tactician. Why no one defeated Aizen before? It wasn't that he was 'uber strong', no. It was just he was hiding. Why Mayuri survived fight with Uryuu?
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Han-yuu said:
I feel sorry for Urahara. He's the one character in whole series who got so much potential to go against anyone but all he do is sit there and watch things from sidelines and train those useless bunch of characters who get KO'd in one page every single time. It's like he have no actual participation in the story except telling few things like narrator when needed.
That's why he is still alive. I don't think that he can 'power up' like Ichigo to avoid deaths, or like Aizen.
If Chad and Orihime can avoid death, and are alive and kicking, and can 'power up'. Why the hell he can't? Are you sure we're talking about Urahara?
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Han-yuu said:
Wannabiteme said:
Urahara would be another 'person with hidden potential' like Kenpachi.
Mayuri, Urahara.. Aizen... they all are tactician. Why no one defeated Aizen before? It wasn't that he was 'uber strong', no. It was just he was hiding. Why Mayuri survived fight with Uryuu?
You didn't get my whole point. Read my first post again. I was talking about his potential either it's hidden or not. Urahara can die in some stupid training like Unohana all we know and that's where the problem begins. Kubo only knows how to create cool characters. I don't remember a single character beside Ichigo who got a decent character development and actually useful when needed.
hmmm... but why Kubo want to 'develop' weak character?
because that's what you do to expand the certain aspects of the story. You won't need only main character to defeat everyone. The main character can rely on others. He know someone is watching his back. It won't become one man show. For example. The guy who created zanpaktou wouldn't be able to do a thing against Stern Ritters. That's how weak they are despite the hype for being a royal guard, captain-commander, former-kenpachi, vastro lord or you name it. And the reason for everyone to be worried for ichigo to get back his bankai and full powers.
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The steady drop in sales and overall popularity says otherwise.
Popularity =/= Quality. If popularity was quality, Twilight and Bible would be masterpieces of epic writing quality.
kizu-kun said:
And you'd be a fool to say the fullbringer arc was good story telling.
Fullbringer arc was good story telling.
kizu-kun said:
The characters were poorly handled and we don't even know WHY it occurred in the first place!
Well, its good that we have 10 years of this manga for that then, eh? :)
kizu-kun said:
Not once did they state why Xcution needed or wanted to get stronger by stealing ichigo's fullbring which is a major plot hole.
The reasosn why Execution was doing it was explained.
kizu-kun said:
How do you go an entire arc without giving any of the characters motive?
Motives were given and explained - Ginjou used a bunch of lonely people whose lives were destroyed by their powers, in order to lead a personal vendetta against something Soul Society did to him after he found out badge's purpose.
kizu-kun said:
And let's not forget all the other mistreated characters like Chad and Orihime who were main characters in the beginning but are now pretty much irrelevant.
Chad and Orihime are still main characters. if anything, fullbring arc showcased and hinted that they have both gotten more powers, but have yet to show it - namely Orihime still has multiple hairpin combinations, not to mention the attack that was interrupted and the attack that did go uninterrupted ended up wounding Ginjou. Chad was pretty much built up as someone who has not reached his peak yet too and we never saw the results of his training yet.
kizu-kun said:
OR certain WTF moments like how they gave byakuya multiple over dramatic "I'm about to die, this is my final request" scenes and then a chapter later he's alive and making a full recovery.
Welcome to every shonen series ever created. Over dramatic "will ___ DIE NOW???!?! of course not!" scenes are the essence of this genre. Don't worry. Kubo will make sure to tell you when character does indeed die.
kizu-kun said:
OOOOR how Aizen, the genius tactician who pretty much been in control of this story from day1, lost to ichigo because he was suddenly overcome with the worst case of hubris I've ever seen and refused to use his zanpakuto which would have assured his victory.
And yet it was perfectly in-character for Aizen and his motives. For someone who had no one equal to him and who played around with everyone, its only normal to underestimate others. Also we do not even know on if his sword would have even worked on Ichigo's mixed kettle of power sources and near infinite reiatsu. Add to it his motives and the fact that he NEEDS Ichigo to reach the King's Realm(Since Ichigo is the key he was making) and you have plenty of reasons on why he would act all emotional and irrational.
kizu-kun said:
It makes even less sense when you think about the fact that he was already better than everyone else to begin with so why become all careless and arrogant now?
You just answered your own question.
kizu-kun said:
Just because you like something in it doesn't mean it's good....
Just because you dislike something in it doesn't mean it's bad....
Belgian_Waffles said:
Wait, if Bach did a thing to kill all the impure Quincies then how are Ichigo, Yuzu and Karin still alive?
Most likely that will be explained.
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Oh, and who knows, maybe Ishida is Masaki's son, or his mysterious power is ... love? x)
Ummm, what is Urahara doing? It is something already established and I don't remember it or is this some new technique? It didn;t befit the last page since I didn't know what he's even doing so I wasn't impressed or intrigued at all.
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