Bleach Chapter 544 Discussion

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kizu-kun said:
The steady drop in sales and overall popularity says otherwise.



Popularity =/= Quality. If popularity was quality, Twilight and Bible would be masterpieces of epic writing quality.





kizu-kun said:


And you'd be a fool to say the fullbringer arc was good story telling.



Fullbringer arc was good story telling.



kizu-kun said:


The characters were poorly handled and we don't even know WHY it occurred in the first place!



Well, its good that we have 10 years of this manga for that then, eh? :)



kizu-kun said:
  Not once did they state why Xcution needed or wanted to get stronger by stealing ichigo's fullbring which is a major plot hole.



The reasosn why Execution was doing it was explained.



kizu-kun said:
How do you go an entire arc without giving any of the characters motive?

Motives were given and explained - Ginjou used a bunch of lonely people whose lives were destroyed by their powers, in order to lead a personal vendetta against something Soul Society did to him after he found out badge's purpose.



kizu-kun said:
And let's not forget all the other mistreated characters like Chad and Orihime who were main characters in the beginning but are now pretty much irrelevant.



Chad and Orihime are still main characters. if anything, fullbring arc showcased and hinted that they have both gotten more powers, but have yet to show it - namely Orihime still has multiple hairpin combinations, not to mention the attack that was interrupted and the attack that did go uninterrupted ended up wounding Ginjou. Chad was pretty much built up as someone who has not reached his peak yet too and we never saw the results of his training yet.



kizu-kun said:
  OR certain WTF moments like how they gave byakuya multiple over dramatic "I'm about to die, this is my final request" scenes and then a chapter later he's alive and making a full recovery.

Welcome to every shonen series ever created. Over dramatic "will ___ DIE NOW???!?! of course not!" scenes are the essence of this genre. Don't worry. Kubo will make sure to tell you when character does indeed die.



kizu-kun said:


OOOOR how Aizen, the genius tactician who pretty much been in control of this story from day1, lost to ichigo because he was suddenly overcome with the worst case of hubris I've ever seen and refused to use his zanpakuto which would have assured his victory.

And yet it was perfectly in-character for Aizen and his motives. For someone who had no one equal to him and who played around with everyone, its only normal to underestimate others. Also we do not even know on if his sword would have even worked on Ichigo's mixed kettle of power sources and near infinite reiatsu.  Add to it his motives and the fact that he NEEDS Ichigo to reach the King's Realm(Since Ichigo is the key he was making)  and you have plenty of reasons on why he would act all emotional  and irrational.



kizu-kun said:
  It makes even less sense when you think about the fact that he was already better than everyone else to begin with so why become all careless and arrogant now?

You just answered your own question.

kizu-kun said:


Just because you like something in it doesn't mean it's good....



Just because you dislike something in it doesn't mean it's bad....



Belgian_Waffles said:
Wait, if Bach did a thing to kill all the impure Quincies then how are Ichigo, Yuzu and Karin still alive?

Most likely that will be explained.
 
  • #12
After this girl splitted that guy in two I see now why Ishida joined them. They are so likeable Kubo had to remind us they are indeed the evil side.[/sarcasm]

Oh, and who knows, maybe Ishida is Masaki's son, or his mysterious power is ... love? x)

Ummm, what is Urahara doing? It is something already established and I don't remember it or is this some new technique? It didn;t befit the last page since I didn't know what he's even doing so I wasn't impressed or intrigued at all.
 
  • #13
That person behind Chad is sooo Grimmjow. But there's someone else too. Someone, who Orihime hasn't seen yet because she was so surprised. She was like:" EEEH!?!?" (just like me while I was reading those pages :3 ) So I can only guess it's Ulquiorra, something just tells me it's him(and shaddap I can have a fangirl dream -_- ). Kubo once was asked if Ulquiorra is coming back, and he only said be patient and read the manga. We've been patient for 4 years...
 
  • #14
Not much happened in this chapter really. Those new characters have horrific names yet again: Kubo should really research foreign names a bit more before he makes up these characters.
 
  • #15
I was reading some of the comments here, the occasional "Kubo stop waisting time on pointless characters" outlandish comments.



..... are u people serious? Like what the actual f*ck?! So in any given 'action' oriented story... you would not want secondary characters, that are supporting our primary antagonist and aiding him to reach his ultimate goal, to be explored? You don't care for insight on them? IF that is the case, then why are u even reading this when its common in this genre?



These characters aren't pointless, they do serve a point. They are part of the war, its NOT just Juha and Haschwalth. If the Shinigami's were to fight characters that WE DON'T EVEN KNOW, then it would be anticlimatic and disappointing. Just because they could die (just like every other antagonistic side in every other action/battle manga) doesn't mean they don't have a point and shouldn't be developed. Seriously, those statements are really annoying.
 
  • #16
1. I don't understand why you all complain about loose plot holes, AND THEN you complain over the length of the manga? How does kubo address your so-called "loose plotholes" without having a length story?



2. Why are so many of you so impatient? Not every chapter can be condensed with awesomeness. Some chapters may add more questions, others may further elaborate on already established answers, and others still may seem pointless. It seems many of you have grown impatient with bleach and just want it to end. Well to such people I ask: "Why do you watch Bleach?".



3. Accept bleach for what it is. Whether you see it as mindless entertainment or more seldom, as an intricate plot, you should just accept it for what it is; if not, stop reading it.
 
  • #17
j0x said:
tankoubon-feind said:
I don't know why tite kubo waited until the last arc to start introducing all these new characters and actually start world building.



i remember Tite Kubo said on an interview that this last arc will be made for 10 years at least so thats why he has a lot of new characters



EDIT:



quick google and here is the source - http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/12/19/tite-kubo-ill-keep-bleach-going-for-at-least-10-years/

-_-

You have got to be joking me
 
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