Bleach Chapter 451 Discussion

What do you know? Ichigo got his fullbring. How? He was STABBBED in the chest AGAIN!!!!

Fai said:




We still do not know what is up with Mizuiro, who was the woman he talked to in the first few chapters, to whom is he talking on a cellphone, what was the thing who was flying in the sky few moments after one of his cellphone scenes or his backstory.







Chapter number please?

starting to really like current arc

I dont think Ginjou is a villian per se, but he's definitely shady!



Well, I doubt even Kubo is sure yet and will go with how he feels as the characters develop! That's the joy of storytelling!



Awesome artwork as ever!

lucjan said:
Fai said:
lucjan said:
Fai said:


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                        Now I am sure Ginjou is villain. But that WAS slick on how he convinced Ichigo he is not.



Nice foreshadowing on cover too(Rain=despair, inoue and riruka's forming bond should make Riruka get over her own despair and make life easier) - Riruka most likely side with Ichigo and Inoue once FB's reveal their intentions.

Fai, did you even fucking read the chapter? No, I bet you read the shitty, skimped out spoilers so you could make it "first". Seriously, pull your head out of your ass. None of that happened.



I am sorry, but what?





i'll try to comment on your post part that does NOT sound as a hysterical cat thrown into a bath.



thats exactly what happened.



If ginjou does NOT convince you this chapter that he is badguy then nothing will. its quite clear he wanted to gain ichigo's trust this way.

"-_- ~facepalm~



First of all, you get the idea that Ginjou's evil from a couple of pages in the middle of the chapter. But you find out at the end that it was just a ploy to make Ichigo complete his fullbring. How somewould would conclude (AFTER READING THE WHOLE CHAPTER) that Ginjou is evil is beyond me. It's absolutely ridiculous.



Second of all, the only thing that even related to Riruka this chapter was the cover art, which wasn't covered by Mangastream (i.e, since Mangastream's the only site that's released the actual, full chapter, Riruka doesn't even belong in this discussion). Not to mention she was only on the cover page. Nothing else was noted about her.



AND I was exactly talking about the end of chapter. Sure it was also for fb reason, BUT ITS CLEAR THAT HE PULLED a "i am not a badguy" trick and got Ichigo's trust. If you can't grasp a simple concept then please facepalm while in front of mirror.



A good villain will either play a fool or a cliched fake villain to make hero drop his focus.



Let's make it simpled:

THIS WHOLE CHAPTER = Ginjou making Ichigo trust him for bad reasons.



ANd why excuse me from looking into cover for foreshadowing since every color bpage by kubo had foreshadowing for events to come. SOme of those did noteven come true yet(like divine dual-headed eagle) and some came in a volume or less (Ichigo's hollow2 form hinted at cover art). Let me cover it slowly so even you can understand:



RAIN = Sorrow and despair in bleach world.

Cover = Riruka and Inoue hiding from the rain implying their bond that formed last chapter will eventually make Riruka get over her despair like inoue did.

Hence: Foreshadowing that RIruka will join good guys once fbs reveal intentions.





Sometimes it seems like people like you just skim through the chapter without even trying to grasp the reasons behind events.



Oh and I am sorry i should have waited 50 minutes after chapter release even if no one started the thread, so little scared cats don't freak out. Now be happy I am not reporting your first post in this thread as flaming. I am sure someone else will though.

Also just realised re-reading:

Did orihime just tried a NEW ATTACK ?



She is using one pin and the attack name does not fit her normal tsubaki attack she had.

Wow. At first I was ready to give the chap a 3/5 based (SOLELY) on the extremely epic and relentless ass-kicking Ginjou was giving Ichigo. He hasn't been whooped that bad since Ulquiorra (who, lest we forget, KILLED him).



But from the moment I read the "This is reiatsu" line, to seeing one of the most badass two-page spreads in Bleach ever(!), I was sold.



4/5.



On to next week!! ^_^

KuroiInazuma said:
Man...they are talking too much and not enough action...I want ichigo to go hollow already >:|



Hes gone dude. No more hollow Ichigo.