Gintama Chapter 554 Discussion

Apparently people don't die when they are killed.

Just why go this way Sorachi wtf, now its pretty much confirmed that Utsuro/Shouyo is the final boss, and we're scheduled to get a cliche shounen ending (master vs students clash)



Come on now and things were going so well, still will wait for official translation.

Like some people say here, Its way too soon to critise this twist and new plot as cliche. Gorilla sensei IS still smart and not stupid like all other shounen mangaka, and I believe we will found out a more deeper meaning to all of this new shocking information.

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                        WHAT THE FCK?! FCK THE WHAT! WHAT THE FCK?! FCK THE WHAT! WHAT THE FCK?! FCK THE WHAT!


Yoshida Shoyo is really Utsuro. He's just using that name. Apparently, he lives forever. And, he just annihilated the whole Harusame elders.

What kind of fckery is this Gorilla?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Note: I'll edit this post later...

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EDIT:




-The Tendoushuu discovered this energy that planets naturally create called "Altana". Or "Ryumyaku" (as it is known in Edo.)

-Shinpachi mentions that he remembers Ane and Mone mentioning that it's an energy the Amanto harnessed to use in the terminal as a transporter.

-The Tendoushuu came into formation as a group who is in charge of how "Altana" is used.

-They basically started mining planets like parasites to get more Altana.

- I don't see anything mentioning Sadaharu, but Nobume does mention the holes, and how miraculous things would happen around them, like forests sprouting out of nowhere, rivers rushing through, and people's illnesses being cured.

-For one reason or another, Utsuhoyou did defect from the Naraku and they went to look for him to punish him as a traitor, and that's when they found him as a teacher.



From Bomber D Rufi's post in YS:

BRUUUUUUUUUUUUH



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2nd EDIT:


He just became Jesus in p. 12. HOW THE HELL DID THE HEAD REATTACHED TO HIS BODY?????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

... Can't say I really like this development.



I see a big tower and talk about Ryumyaku. First thing that came to my mind was Yozakura Quartet.

The salt in this thread is unreal~



Anyway quite an interesting chapter, didn't really expect that plot twist with Shouyou. Not quite sure why you guys immediately think it will be a cliche "student vs sensei" ending, there is still various other possibilities as we aren't even quite sure whether the current Utsuro is also Shouyou at the same time (as in personality wise) and various other stuffs about how the plot is going to unfold from here. Should just wait and see how it turns before immediately calling it off...

After all the crazy thing we have seen in this series? Is an immortal dude is a that big of a deal? We haven't see Utsuro side of the story so why don't you people wait till you judge. Every manga is full of cliche, its all depend on how it is execute.



Do you prefer the final villain to be some strong alien dude we never heard about?

This chapter ruined the whole plot? Really, guys? Just because you can't accept Shouyou being other than this beautiful teacher who gave his life for his students?



Listen, 520 and 519 ARE NOT IRRELEVANT DESPITE ALL OF THESE.

But they are the thing of the past and it has accomplished what it set out to do: To make Gintoki, Katsura and Takasugi the people that they are today. Did 554 made Gintoki less than of a great character? NO. ABSOLUTELY NOT.



You guys are forgetting something. 519 & 520 are told on Takasugi's and a bit of Gin's perspective. It's their version of truth. And 554 was not. It was Shouyou's/Utsuro's. Means that now we knew 519 & 520 we are now on the same page as Gintoki and felt what he's probably feeling right now: that is the bitter feeling of betrayal.



About the plot itself, I recommend all of you to read chapter 72 and see for yourself if this is really as far-fetched as you thought it was.



Like you, I felt mad after reading this. But cool your head and reassess your thoughts about this. Please.



And the cliche bit. Ohoho stop being sissies and stop assuming where things are going.