Fairy Tail Chapter 449 Discussion

finally caught up with the latest chapter, Mavis X Zeref seems good to me, what an immortal couple lol

metsujin said:
Okay so regarding Mavis's 'curse' the immortal part, she used Law incomplete black magic, that made her stop aging, making her immortal. Being a newb and using black magic arts... yeah I'd say you're screwed. But will she have the same curse as Zeref? All living things die when she cares about life? To me it seems a bit off, that she'll have the same curse as Zeref, unless, and this is just a thought. The 'God' that cursed him, decided to punish whoever tries to be close to him.



Their is an inherent difference between the ways they commited a "crime against nature". Zeref inteded to bring back a dead person.

Mavis brought back a friend from an abnormal status aka transformation.



It´s highly unlikely that they share literally  the same curse but rather that the curse manifests itself in nuances.



Love isn´t love afterall.

From Fairy Tail Base http://www.fairytailbase.com/threads/fairy-tail-449-mavis-and-zeref-discussions-and-450-predictions.22058/page-21








    世界で　ただ一人

    X696年、ユーリの子诞生

    ギルドのみんなに爱される子に育ってほしいとの母・リタの愿いで

    赤子はマスター・メイビスにマカロフと名付けられる

    リタが绝命したのは、その直后だった



    ゼレフと同様の"死をまき散らすもの"と化したメイビスは

    谁とも会わぬよう、森にこもること一年

    三度会ったゼレフが壊れる様を目の当たりにすると

    ゼレフを受け入れ、呪いを解く方法を一绪に见つけようと口づける

    　魔道の深渊 全ての始まり　それは一なる魔法"爱"

    　爱は奇迹を起こし　时に悲しみを引き起こす

    　矛盾の呪いをかけられた二人の爱は　最后の矛盾をつきつけられる

    　爱すれば爱するほどに命を失うその呪いは

    　不老不死であるはずの私(＝メイビス)の命を夺っていった



    ■呪われた"少年(ゼレフ)"と"少女(メイビス)"の物语。ゼレフの爱が、悲しみが…世界の暗の始まりだった……

    　 第451话｢妖精の心臓(フェアリーハート)｣につづく　TO BE CONTINUED





In year x696, Yuri's child is born. Makarov's mother is Rita.

It seems that Rita asked Mavis to bless the child.. and Mavis realized the true meaning of life.. killing Rita.

We go to Zeref's side. He explains that the ones that were cursed escape the reality... isolating themselves.

It seems that Mavis isolated herself in a forest, and met Zeref for three times. In the third time, she asked him if he would go with her to find a way to break the curse.

It seems that the curse also affects Love. Zeref and Mavis love each other, but they can't assume this because they would kill each other. Life continued.. and this story about a cursed boy and cursed girl is indeed a Tragic Love Story that turned out to be the beginning of darkness in the world.



FT 251 "Fairy of the Heart"



Hiro's twitter post this week said that his editor was shocked at something in the chapter.







So it looks like Zervis was the real thing.



Mavis killed Rita. Looks like some of those theories were spot on for this event. Wonder how it connected to Yuriy dying later?



So they were not taking chances of killing each other??



Curses and love are related



So the two were looking for a cure which is why they went to the one magic. Fairy heart has something to do with one magic confirmed.



The thing with his editor being surprised at a part in the chp has got me hyped!!!!

So with this we can basically talk about FT Zero stuff right? Its nice of just how much more indepth this is made by having read that one. Also I guess anime will adapt Zero during this point too?(Or during the timeskip most likely)



I am more and more convinced that Zeref will NOT be the final villain and either END or the "god" who cursed Zeref and Mavis will.  There seems to be a whole separate layer of things that is hidden from sight so far.



Shaily said:


So Mavis is an immortal too. Which proves enough that she is frozen in time. The crystal the guild has but that wouldn't explain the ghost of Mavis then. Would like to know how she supposingly 'died' (Which I don't think she has) and got into that form.





Considering Mavis is very well versed in Illusion Magic, it is not surprising she would be able to create a non-corporeal body for herself.
After all she DID create a whole freaking person and did not even realize it for multiple years



Aqua_Eleven said:
Has the same curse as Zeref but than he says that she has been choosing who dies at her own discretion. Perhaps that is what Fairy Heart does the power of her curse.  



Anyway liked how it showed how she got her nickname, hope to see the mom and baby Makarov.



we don't know how the curse works so far but most likely Zeref was someone who did not want anyone to die(so everyone does now), while Mavis so far has been making decisions that led to deaths of others to save others(the war, even the fairy law itself) - she is  not realizing what her actions cause because she views it from positive angle of having saved her friends.



What's more we literally seen this war as a short flashback when they called her Tactician during the GMG.

The only way I believe Yuryi could be God Serena is:



- They both look similar;

- He too came in contact with Law, so it might have a effect on him.



Or God Serena is just some random OP dude.

renaiyuusha said:
i can't understand. so who's the ghost in that guild now



There never was a ghost

Darklight0303 said:




There is such a thing as reading too much into things. You have no basis for your theory other than wishful thinking. Hell Warrod would recognize him. since he was a wizard saint too =_= People need to just let go of this stupid theory



Says the guy who was Hell bound on the Gray Uchiha outcome, because obviously Gray wasn´t a spy and was the villain of the avatar arc.



Remember how that came to be true?

Remember when Natsu fought Gray cause he had become a villain, remember how you predicted that correct.

Would it be possible for Mavis and Zeref to kill each other? Maybe that's the reason Zeref wants to lay hands on her: he wants to die by her hands.