Fairy Tail Chapter 443 Discussion

rapidcif said:
Ophis said:
Am I the only one who's trying to make sense of the power levels? In Tartaros you had Mard Geer who was supposed to be the the (2nd?) strongest Demon that Zeref ever made... and was literally fucking shit up left and right. Hiro even had a panel where Mard implied that he would go fight Acnologia...



But here we have the first of the Spriggan 12 and she's being implied to be on a whole different level than Mard Geer. And the fact that she made a whole island disappear just like that, is implying that she's Acnologia level, seeing as he also leveled a whole island back in the Tenrou Island arc.



I guess I'm just confused as to how Tartaros was gonna have a "destroy the world" threat when there are 12 or more humans just one continent away that could have crushed them.

I actually never considered mard geer to be as strong as top wizard saint level actually....laxus would have given him a good fight



No Mard geer was extremely powerful but at a huge disadvantage. He fought Dragon force Natsu and Ice devil slayer Gray team up they'd give anyone trouble maybe even on of the spriggan 12. There is also that devil/demon slayer part and Mard Geer is a demon. Demons arent like dragon where dragonslayaer magic is the only magic that can inflict even the smallest of pain on them. Demons can get hurt by ANYmagic so that means instead of demon slaying magic being the only effective magic it is instead super or more effective and deals a lot of damage to demons. So yeah Mard Geer was powerful just at a huge disadvantage so he couldn't show off his power.

aos10 said:
so, marin was a traitor and he was going to meet with a spy ?

could that spy be gildarts ?



Marin wasn't a traitor. He was expendable

Isterio said:
metsujin said:
Behemoth11 said:
So we are at the same starting point again, huh? Seriously, Natsu and so on could defeat Mard, the highest mage of Tartarus and now they can't do anything against those kids?



It's not that they fought back or anything, plus against Marin, even if you are powerful, if you can't hit you're target is useless.



I´m gonna be honest the chapter was a 5/5 great chapter. Hiro was resently always on point it feels like the tartaros introduction yet again.



The problem simply is he´s overdoing it. Natsu and Gray shouldn´t have been that impressed. To be honest, the only way I see this going down would be Yuriy is a traitor and actually stronger than those other 11guys.



They can also possibly find Gildarts during this arc on a solo mission which would make for another legit fight. Laxus should be around his level by now and Natsu too.



Let´s say there are 11 enemies because Yuriy is a traitor



Gildarts, Natsu, Gray, Laxus, Gajeel,Mira and Erza and Yuriy those are the guy´s that I´d buy beating them 1vs1.



8. people who are shown to be bosslevel throughout the series, I´d even buy it if Yuriy beat´s two because the guy was top1 in Ishgar.



But if he makes one of the 12 a troll again and makes Wendy and Lucy take each one out or Natsu helping them out and oneshotting the guy I call bullshit. Hiro should take those enemies seriously no oneshots no fanservice within a fight.



I liked this weaks fanservice because it was well placed.

I´d also buy it if Lucy and Wendy or Cana and Juvia team up maybe with even Levy for a 3vs1 and outsmart a boss, that´d be entertaining and reasonable.



Hiro just doesn´t have to drop the ball, he did everything right till now.

I would love to see Gildarts too, I mean it would make sense for him to finally fight.

I agree I can see Natsu, Gildarts, Laxus, Gajeel and Gray fighting 1 on 1 battles. Erza and Mira team up, Lucy and Wendy team up and so on.

I hate how people say "they have no chance", Natsu didn't use any of his modes, Gildarts is powerful, Gajeel same as Natsu, Gray might have a demon form or smth.

About the bandages, I found a picture from a previous chapter's cover that showed Natsu's arm with a tattoo similar to Gray's... But it's chapter 390..



http://41.media.tumblr.com/848fedd79157cab56017e1420daf1cd3/tumblr_inline_nof7yczOCV1rttsnx_500.png

metsujin said:
wiErD0es said:
Oh wait I just also noticed something regarding Natsu's arm..... It didn't react back at their enemies in Avatar arc... since it's just seemed to easy for him (One shot fodder alert!) It might seemed like it responded to powerful enemies such as the 12th Sprigan because of its immense magic power with reasons unknown.



Notice how Natsu wasn't too much intimidated by the enemy and even demanded a fight.... I might be wrong but I think Natsu has really grown more powers than he displayed back at the last arc. If you could count it as END first awakening or his failed dragonification, then yes for me. But then again, it will not take just for Natsu alone to take down Arbaless.



Well he didn't use any of his forms yet Dragon Force or Thunder Flame Mode, so yeah he still has something up his sleeves. But nice to see it confirmed that he's hiding something, been bugging me since the beginning of the time skip, either he hided something, Mashima trolled us, or it's a hint that he trained with Gildarts, since Gildarts has a bandage on his right arm too.



I agree. Before everything else, Natsu was able to push back the crash mage but now he probably managed to inflict a wound on him. Kinda makes like Naruto and Jiraiya training where Naruto accidentally injures his sensei.. What if he lost control and the three of them kept quiet about it?



He has already three forms with the new one inherited by his father.

metsujin said:
KingAce261 said:
metsujin said:
TheHonestThief said:
I can't decide how I felt about this chapter. Laxus and crew joining Blue Pegasus just doesn't feel right... The GaLe bait was hilarious with Juvia's commentary. But in regards to Alvarez... It just felt like Mashima is trying too hard to demonstrate these guys as a threat. The escalation of Fairy Tail always felt real up until now. For heaven's sake, if Alvarez's best are this strong, they could've wrecked Tartaros without trying. Am I the only one that feels this way? This arc is coming across as forced...



I think all of the Laxus stuff was a joke lol Actually what Tartaros did, played in Alvarez's advantage, since Face was magic bomb that nullifies magic, if Alvarez invaded to get Lumen Histoire (that's their plan), they would've been... you know useless, because the bomb would've destroyed the magic. Tartaros had their own goal, but since they failed, at the same time 'succeeded' in getting reed of Face and Etherion, Alvarez can now attack and take Lumen Histoire. It kinda fits if you think about it.



I still wanna know the fucking point of the entire tarturous guilds plan. They were fighting END the entire time, lil END Natsu looked exactly like older Natsu or guess from his last name Dragneel, you can't tell me they don't even know the last name of their master/creator/person they r supposed to kill. Also if END was the one trying to stop them WTF was in that book and if they had succeeded what would happened. I'd say either nothin and us Readers would laugh our asses off or Natsu full power as END is unlocked and he can use curse power, however Natsu still FT wizard so he uses his new power to take revenge in a magi less world



Dude you know all the demos have another form, prior to how they normally look right? Right? Look at Mard Geer, his demon form looks nothing like he's normal form (aka Mard Geer looks the most human out of all, also I believe Silver had a demon form too). I don't believe the other demons know what E.N.D stands for, just Zeref, and I think Igneel knew too. Nope curses feed of negative emotions, it was explained. Someone might die, and it's all for Natsu's purpose in becoming E.N.D and killing Zeref, because that's what Zeref wishes, but for him to achieve that, Natsu needs to go through despair, Zeref already said that he'll basically make Natsu's life a 'living nightmare'.



True I can't argue with that and yeah I knew. Every demon from the books of Zeref have an Etherious form that's why I'm pretty sure Igneel lost to end fair and square and didn't give up when he saw a child cuz END stand for Etherious Natsu Dragneel so Natsu not end unless he is in his Etherious form. Maybe afterward Igneel saw him turn back and raised him idk. Yeah I did say that though that maybe inside the book is Natsu sealed powers and unsealing it immediarly gives him the power of END instead of him having to wait and get stronger first. Like that arm now could be his first signs of dragonfication or his first signs of an Etherious form.

that GaLe moment tho.. <3



the fuck, Brandish so OP..

renaiyuusha said:
what a power, it's more more interesting arc like tartaros before, i can't wonder how fairy tail fight against dat 12 monsters



i can't wait for god serena to show his powers



Friendship speeches plot armor and random power ups.