Vampire Knight Chapter 86 Discussion

You people are disgusting. Just drop the series now and spare the people who actually enjoy the story from your unwarranted character bashing.



Nothing in the chapter indicated a Yuuki x Kaname end. It just reinforced that Yuuki and Zero won't end up together, either. But Vampire Knight was described as a tragic romance from the very first volume so most legitimate fans have already been emotionally prepared for years for the fact that no one will end up together in the end.

Im going to rant a bit here. the reasons why I think VK does not make sense at all.


I loveeeee the art in VK, and I love Zero. I used to like Yuuki when she was human. The point to me is that every since she became a pureblood, things stopped making sense to me. why you ask?

- A pureblood is supposed to be hugely powerful. Until now Yuuki barely can defend herself and I sense none of her pureblood aura.

- While i find it cute sometimes the "we´re destined to each other, I was born for you", there are other times I find it terrible. I mean that destined thing pisses me off, its like you´re conditioned to make one single choice and cannot fight against it. If Yuuki was already destined to Kaname, what´s the point of her meeting and living with Zero, if he never had a chance to begin with?!!!

- We see Kuran generation always Kuran with Kuran, I dont think it would be wrong if this time, a pureblood married a former enemy. That would actually bring peace to both sides and break that "destined" thing.

- I dont hate Kaname, I can empathize with his pain but seriously, his character is a rip-off. Go read Record of fallen vampire manga and meet Strauss. Precisely the same " Im hugely powerful. I want to save everyone and make enemies ally, so ill make everyone hate me and have me as common enemy, and oh btw, the girl i loved in the past died." Also the current girl which "loves" him is chasing after him to kill him because she is the only one able to. Deja-vu, no? the difference is, we see the past of Strauss well explained. Here in VK, the hooded woman doesnt even have a name and we still dont know how the Kuran´s were born (did Kaname had a brother/cousin, relative?) because Kaname stayed in a coffin 10 thousand years so I wonder how Juri, Haruka and Rido were born. Nothing was explained until now.

- Again i have to mention this: If Zero and Yuuki stay together, I actually do not agree, because the manga is heading to the end, and until now she "loved" Kaname. Changing the heart of a chara on a last chapter seems like plothole to me, its not logical.

-Not to mention the lack of development of the supporting charas.

In the end all I want is for Zero to have his happy end, and that´s it.

Ends rant

alysonskye said:
I'm really starting to love Vampire Knight (and not just for the art like I used to). The majority of us are Team Zero and I don't think it's an accident that most of us are Zero fans. And if you think beyond the love triangle being just about which boy she likes more, you see Yuuki caught between who she's supposed to be, the vampire princess and wife of the ancestor that she feels a responsibility to be, especially since that's who her parents who died for her expected she would marry Kaname, and who she actually is and who she actually loves. She's caught having to choose between her happiness and responsibilities, and I find Yuuki admirable for trying so hard to live up to all those responsibilities. Now that Kaname appears to have gone berserk, she feels a responsibility to go against him and she's terribly confused right now but she's hiding it in order to be the just and kind leader of the vampires, especially since most of the purebloods are insane. She undeniably loves Zero but feels like she shouldn't be with him. Don't hate on Yuuki for picking Kaname, she's just confused, she loves Zero, don't worry!



Agreed! Yuuki has a lot of confusion, fear, and insecurity controlling her life. She has been fighting against it a lot this arc but she's far from perfect. I think it's just hard for some fans to deal with because a lot of them have been following the manga for years, when it comes to the Zeki fans they had to sit through the Kuran Mansion arc and that was probably frustrating. I'm a (somewhat) newer fan so I have more patience, personally xD



And you're welcome (about pointing out the parallel) !

i love matsuri hino's art ,it's keep getting better....and i don't think yuki is the kind of person who does what she doesn't want to do,she said in the first arc that she loves kaname and now that she belongs to him...and last page the umbrella scene ,Matsuri Hino is playing with the thougts in our minds, it's a kanamexyuki but she give zeki's fans a chunk of hope so they have a reason to continue on reading....all what he did in the first was for yuki,and i believe all what he is doing for humans coexist and for yuki in the first place,i thing he is the one who is suffering the most we can see that in his sad eyes...he is doing all that for some implicite reason including the hooded woman's will i believe it's for yuki...he is not killing purebloods for fun ,i think at the end we will see  that he was the good  guy who did all the dirty work so others would live in happiness

I like the idea of zero and yuuki not loving eachother because it was all a set up and was merely false love, i say i like that idea cause that means zero can drop that bitch and get with someone he actually deserves, plus he probably wont be held back at the thought of hurting yuuki by trying to off kaname and this time will hopefully suceed

I can't help but wonder how the hell can people see Zeki as the "good" end for Zero. Up until now, Yuuki stated several times that she wants to be with Kaname even though she is trying to stop him by all means. If she were to simply jump on to Zero, her words would mean nothing at all. Do you really want a girl, whose words are completely meaningless and she will jump ships when she sees fit, to date your favourite character? Really? If Yuuki wasn't so obsessed with Kaname, it would be understandable how she could simply "jump onto" Zero. But after everything she said, how much she loved him and how much she wanted to be with him etc. she should simply forget all of that and date Zero? And call that "happy ending"? When your favourite character ends up with someone so fake and selfish? If anything, Zero would deserve someone who would actually give a damn about him and his problems, not someone who is hurting and ignoring him for fun yet expecting him to be happy about it.

Wow @ Color page!



Those vampires who survived supporting Yuuki for chasing Kaname, even Zero.  lol @ Kaito, and more @ chairman.



Yuuki told Zero she cannot be with him at her house, and she's just following the fate?  Zero still cherishes the meeting with her, so he's going with her.

Yuuki is STILL declaring that she belongs to Kaname?  After all that's just happened?  She is such a royal flibbertigibbet!