Vampire Knight Chapter 86 Discussion

Arurie said:
I feel sick to my stomach... Yuuki... with Kaname? After all of this?

I suffered through the wretched Yume moments for nothing? Zero gets nothing?

Honestly, I wish I never started reading the manga or watched the anime. Then I wouldn't be all upset about a character I empathize with. And since it's fiction I can't do a thing to change it.

What the &*^$ do people see in Kaname? Ya know what, nevermind. I don't even want to know how anyone can like him.

*goes in a corner and whimpers*



I feel the same. To be more specific the only reason I kept reading this boring manga was only because of Zero. Its frustrating.

hey remember when this series had good suspense and interesting plot points? yah where has that been these past 3 years.



oh and the kaname x yuuki reinforcement just made this already terrible series even worse, only reason im still sticking around is the possibility that kaname will die, to see such a horrible written, downright evil character go down woudl easily make me give this an extra point, but seeing how downright retardedly written this series has become i can only imagine that they will paint kaname as a hero and make zero a "bad guy" in the end



Jaymie said:


Nothing in the chapter indicated a Yuuki x Kaname end. It just reinforced that Yuuki and Zero won't end up together, either. But Vampire Knight was described as a tragic romance from the very first volume so legitimate fans have already been emotionally prepared for years for the fact that no one will end up together in the end.well these legitimate fans are expecting WAAAAAAAY to much from a series that disappoints at every turn, i really cant see this series trying to pull off a emotional enduring ending like that especially with the writing of recent



also about your statement that the people complaining are disgusting, i dont know what is more disgusting, people getting so worked up over a stupid ship or someone trying to defend this peice of shit, hint hint, its the ladder

Yuuki is such a #@$#...why is she still saying she "belong to kaname"...I dunno what Hino's thinking...this story is at its climax of being worst

i was expecting a better chapter.....i love kaname however evil he might look because  an obvious  manga is redicilous ,and yuki: i belong to kaname say it all

After reading what she said to Zero, I was so angry if I had an anti vampire weapon on me I would have chopped her with it.   





Yes Zero is my favorite character too.   



At one time, a couple of years ago, this was my very favorite manga.

Kaname himself actually refers to Rido as a person who embodies his faults well/says they're very much alike/is a very good mirror/etc. That wasn't something I just pulled out of thin air for the sake of arguing my point. Also, whether it's a chunk or the whole thing, Yuuki saying she can't be sated by Kaname because of Zero still has very negative implications for Yume, because you're supposed to be sated by the one you love. If Yuuki loves Kaname, she should be sated by him, but she's not. Thus my point of her feelings for Zero at least being equal to Kaname, if not greater, and also Yuuki saying she's with Kaname because she doesn't want to be alone for eternity. Not because she loves him. And, his feelings make her sad, not happy o_O But I was just stating my opinion before, so I digress :P We'll all think what we want until Hino proves us without a doubt wrong. (Oh, and I like Kaname's character - not sure if you thought I didn't with what you said in your post lol but yeah. I find him interesting now that we've learned about his past as the Ancestor, and I think it's very sad what he went through)



I was actually wondering about Rima and Shiki myself, because they were going to the association after Takuma and I'm not sure how he managed to get past them while carrying Sara. XD I guess the next time we see Takuma, we'll probably see Rima and Shiki as well. Maybe they're following him? I think Takuma has probably returned to Kaname's side for now, since Kaname isn't the one who killed Sara. I was surprised Kaname left Seiren behind, though. Not that he had much of a chance to go get her, he was making a quick get away, but I wonder if she'll stay at Cross Academy now or if she'll disappear and go to where he is? They have a master/servant type relationship it seems, she's very loyal to him, so I can't imagine her not trying to track him down.



I think since Kaname made the choice to not turn Yuuki back into a human like he'd originally intended, he probably decided to give her a new role: watching over the vampires and being the one to take his life. That's not to say this is what will happen, I just think that's what Kaname may want.

I hope Zero and Yuuki end up together,Kaname is getting kinda annoying.

I understand everyone's point of views about this chapter, this series has become a real drab lately and I too love zero and wished a happy ending. But look at it like this, zero is finally coming to terms with himself and all around him, he is finding the light so be proud of him. He and yuki may never have been anyway because she is a pureblood and she clearly states that she belongs to kaname( whether she wants to or not we don't know, and it doesn't mean it's indicating an end). The series has basically helped us to travel with zero through his ups and downs, watching him develop as a character so maybe not now but there must be happiness for him somewhere. At least now he will wan to continue on with life, with purpose and to find that happiness. Plus i'm kinda happy that he is still free and not tied down for us all XD i had to fangirly somewhere!!

p.s. I've always disliked kaname, but I've still kinda understood his reasoning, he simply wanted to pay back his debt to the ancestor who he clearly cared for, yes his way of doing it is very wrong. But over the series I've learnt to sympathize and realized he is just very old and lonely, always being used, and living with the guilt and sorrow of losing the ancestor who sacrificed herself before to fight the purebloods. So you can see why he's turned out so to be the depressed, bitter and   crazy vampire that he is!! besides without his personality he is a beautiful drawing, but I still love our zero more who just seems to get older and better, whilst kaname becomes more brooding. This also has to be my favorite Yuki transformation yet with the edgy clothes and hair, ready for the hunt!!