Eden: It's an Endless World! Chapter 126 Discussion

The story went off tracks pretty heavily in it's final third or so, and we arrive at this nonsense conclusion. Some points that just don't make sense to me, to get the ball rolling:

• Meigus. Who the fuck was that? Why did he have immunity to Discloser? You can't just bring out a random dude to be your final antagonist and expect that to work wonders.
  
  
• Why did Sophia have immunity too? Is this just random chance? How would anyone know that besides Maya? Did he tell Meigus?
  
  
• Sophia's daughter and her father. Why come out now for Sophia? And most importantly, WHY KILL MANA? There is literally no plausible explaination for this other than "they felt like it". They had no grudge, the person they got the orders from had already died, and they had quit the mission as well. Why kill Mana and get on Ennoah's bad side? It's not like Propater cared about those two anymore at this point. It was just another, of what felt like a million, pointless edgy deaths in this story. It was made to seem important to the themes, but the whole pointless death had already been made pretty clear at this point, but that alone doesn't excuse the fact that inside the narrative it made literally no sense. Elijah's whole quest amounted to not much at all, he never saved anyone.
  
  
• Propater and the Cartel's endings. So Ennoah, Chad and Tony just got together, killed everyone and that was the end of the Cartel conflicts. Same for Meigus just blowing up the Propater figure heads. So the two main opposing factions don't even end up facing eachother, and are dealt with by using a little bit of effort? It made everything feel trivial.
  
  
• Elijah and Miriam's arcs kind of go nowhere. They didn't even do anything in the final arc.
  
  

Those are my issues with the ending, but for regarding the whole of the story: Eden had a really strong start, with a cool setting and cast of characters. The multiple nationalities and backgrounds add a lot of freshness to the story in the first arc, when Elijah, Helena and Kachua join the Coronel and his band in an effort to leave Propater's territory. To me, this was the best portion of the series, where it's elements of major appeal were at full force. The interesting aspects of sci-fi like hacking, Cherubim and cyborgs are all fantastic here. And Kachua and Wycliffe's deaths remained the most impactful/most well executed to the end of the series to me.

After that, the Helena and Pedro arc. This one is still pretty good, Helena is a great character and her relationship with Elijah felt very real and endearing. Things get way too edgy here too with killing children for no good reason but it's still tolerable. After this, things get muddled, and we never go back any interesting setting, just jump from city to city.



Helena's death was a real waste and the story didn't really go anywhere significant with it, imo. Miriam was a nice addition but she never had much to work with story wise. The cop, cartel and Propater business becomes a huge mess as well, and as said before, isn't taken to any decent conclusion. It all gets swept to the side in favor of coloid stuff, which was not interesting.

The novel feel of the global story, with characters from many different countries, lost it's appeal pretty hard at one point, it became tiresome to have to hear everyone's sad background story every time.



It wasn't a terrible read, but it lost it's way super hard and never managed to capture it's original charm once the first arc was over. The guerrilla feeling, the interesting dynamics of the Coronel's group and Elijah, that all got thrown out, when it was the best part of the series. I wish Elijah had gone back to the Coronel's group after Helena's death, set on becoming a mercenary or something, given his extensive training and maturing after all that had happened. The relationship between Kenji and the Coronel never got a decent conclusion as well, for shame.

One positive about the ending, was that Elijah's old friends were not forgotten, Naomi, Nathan and Ricky all returned for the good bye fortunately.

Overall, wouldn't recomend this manga to people, I had to almost force myself to finish it.

I have to agree with the majority of you guys. The whole last volume was just disappointing. It went downhill after Mana's death, when he decided to go all out on the hard science with the universe. This, the weird,misplaced humor and pointless deaths in the second half were completely unnecessary. The manga would've been way better if it had a dozen to twenty chapters less.

It's still a really good manga, but it could've been fantastic, had it kept the vibe of the first half.

I found this series overall enjoyable tbh. Some parts made me feel a bit odd while reading this but the characters were very appealing. I had some mixed feelings on the ending tbh and the way it was handled but the overall story flowed well. 8/10.



Some of the subplots did feel a bit unnecessary though and had a weak balance to it. The momentum of the first half was very strong though imo.

I expected a bit more of this final chapters. I'm a bit disappointed for how it ended, leaving aside Elijah and all, I didn't like the final part of this manga. It was OK for me, but I still think that Eden is great on the whole.



But I have some doubts regarding the end of this manga, and I would be grateful if someone could give me an answer:





1) Was it said the reason why the "vacuum mass" (the mass who spread the gamma rays I mean) appears?? Was it a God's action, the effect of the Barrel (the great pillar of colloid), an action that the virus itself started to do a long time ago or a Maya's action??



I know, maybe I forgot a big detail of the manga, and that's the reason why I'm asking that.





2) I didn't find out why Ennoah decide to become a Drug Lord after leaving Project Pleroma. This question is solved or it wasn't told?? I still don't know why he did that (yes, I did understand why he leaves Pleroma, but not why he becomes a Drug Lord, he could have made another kind of business or create another sort of organization...).





Thanks for all and my apologies for my english.

Very crappy ending, but not unexpected considering that the arc itself was pretty much garbage. The manga ended when Mana died.



I understand being an enthusiast and wanting to go back to a more sci-fi oriented story, but he did it in a such a bad way. I literally could not care less about anything that happened in that last arc. Should have just ended this story on a high note , then he could go and start another manga more grounded in sci-fi. Instead, we get this crap. Meh.



Oh well, still a very good manga.

I have so many mixed feelings because I think the first 18 or so chapters was genuinely a 10/10 but as we headed towards the Pedro arc I started to lose motivation, and the manga would teeter back and forth into being well paced to just whatever. I HATED the stupid Helena and Eliah sex scenes and it felt like the author didn't even bother making it seem wrong or anything because nobody in the manga cared about the scenario. Things started getting good again after that garbage was over but there were just so many side characters introduced afterwards that it became kind of a headache keeping up with both the scientific side plot and all the politicians and the geopolitical stuff. I also just thought the sex and violence kept getting cranked up more and more to way extreme lengths.



I liked the Mana arc, but things after that started to vary in quality afterwards and Idk... the ending was kind of nice I guess. I liked the whole thing with Enoa at least

Hmm very disppointed after mana died. The story sorta slowed down and dragged out and kept creating questions that weren't answered. It felt an aweful lot like maya and that other girl were born to do gods work... and god wanted to end humanity or create a new universe? cause how the hell did the bubble vaccume thing appear? and jsut happen to go to where the big barrel could shoot the light, seems like the colloid was the one who created it... which make the colloid almost god like!



Remember also that the universe slowed its expansion dramatically, i think the intention was that it was going to be replaced by another universe so it didnt need to grow anymore or something. Again it all seems to happen once the colloid came into existance.



Overall i liked the manga, but i think if it were kept to a less grand scale or had more focus on the little stories it might have been better becasue to me it failed to bring across a great message, its ur typical we can make this world a better place concept.



I really wanted more story from Elijah that was a big let down too. At the end it seems he didnt care who died too, i guess he was used to it after all the shit he went through.



I think the manga started out great till about chapter 105 then it sorta went slightly downhill, not bad but not as great as the start either.



8/10 for me :)

It's unfortunate that the ending was rushed and Endo exaggerated on unnecessary crappy humor throughout the story, but I still call this a masterpiece, this is like Xenogears in manga.