Bleach Chapter 552 Discussion

So the key to defeat Quincy is to be a Hollow?

urahara is so fucking smart

One of the better chapters in a while! It was great to see Mayuri collaborating with Urahara. So Quincies are able to steal a shinigami's bankai but they don't want to steal an Arrancar's resurrección since it would dis-merit them. That black pill is a pretty cheap plot device but it's still plausible I guess. '"Hollowfy" a bankai for a few seconds' - That sounds way too cool. :D I loved the last page with Mayuri saying 'that bankai will become 'posion' for quincy'. Good job Kubo! I really want to see Grimmjow already now that he seems more relevant in this 'war'. :3

There we go. Uruhara found another bug :D. He is good at this !

I literally though they were fucked at first, but now they have a chance against them at least....

Urahara is the best!! Always rely on him when things go out of hand :)

If hollow powers are poison to qunicies how was Kirge able to absorb Ayon in hueco mundo?

penguindrum264 said:
kizu-kun said:
penguindrum264 said:




kizu-kun said:

Also back when kubo first introduced quincies Urarhara himself said that they were spiritually aware humans that created techniques to fight hollows, but now he is saying that being a quincy makes you weak against hollows....  and when masaki's body was invaded by White (which should have killed her) Urarhara said that he could stop soul suicide from happening but in order to stop her from hollowfiying her soul had to be linked with Isshin's to keep the hollow at bay. Now he is saying that it is impossible for quincy to hollowfy. And stranger still, Hollows can become quincies even though they are supposed to be so incompatible.




He never said it was impossible for them to hollowfy, he said they don't have the genes/antibodies to fight against the "poison."  Misaki had to be linked to Isshin's because his genes/soul could fight against hollows. Hollows were trained into becoming quinces, they weren't born Quinces, they just learned how to manipulate reishi but aren't nearly as good as a born and full blood Quincy.. Urahahra said that hollowfication wasn't meant for quinces when Misaki was undergoing it that's why he needed something stronger than the vaccine he used on the shinigamis and that was linking Misaki and Isshin's souls because he was powerful enough(because he's a shinigami) to fight back against the hollow.



  
I'm going off of the manga stream translation which said that they "wouldn't even be granted the option of hollowfiction" because hollow reiatsu causes a quincy soul to rot and be reduce to nothingness. And back when they were saving Misaki he said the surgery needed to be done in order for her to"live like a normal girl" which kinda implies that she would have turned into a hollow hybrid. I guess one way you can explain it is that he didn't know how deadly hollows were to quincy back then.



Still doesn't explain why Misaki's soul didn't start to rot the moment the hollow went into her body. The pills seem to have had a pretty instant effect on Cang Du and he was only exposed to a mircofraction of hollow energy for a few seconds.



Yea the fact that she didn't start rotting is a plot hole. I think Kubo was trying to come up with something based on the fact that Urahara told Isshin and Ryuken that Quinces aren't meant to undergo Hollowfication and that Isshin had to save Misaki, but like always he misses details that sometimes contradict events before it.



It says it was poison, but it never said how quickly it would deteriorate  the soul. Keep in mind she was dying, these quincies merely lost the bankai, a power that was stolen, so they instantly lost it. There is rather a big difference between losing  a stolen power and not being hurt and actually dying.

Was Masaki attacked by pure hollow? Wasn't White a hollowfied shinigami to begin with?



Is Quincy Masaki same as Quincy Sternritters? I see Masaki as human descendant of Bach. She was more Human than Magic Knight. Maybe lack of physical body for Sternritters and Bach is the reason their soul can corrode being exposed to Hollow reiatsu.



To help Visards not turn into hollows Urahara gave them gigai.



Was kidnapping Halibel really just to get slaves from Hueco Mundo? Maybe the guy that met with Mayuri found a way to make Sternritters immune to Hollow Reiatsu?