Fai said:
hungry_bunny said:
Ichigo won't be over-powered after this.
Juha Bach and his white-haired companion are the ones that are over-powered, they split his bankai in half without even trying. This kind of power-up is a minimum if he's going to fight on equal terms.
With that said, is this enough? Old Zangetsu's reasons for holding Ichigo back are interesting... it's like the inner Juha Bach had the same hatred for shinigami as the real Juha Bach, as if not only Juha Bach's reiatsu was transferred to his descendants, but his memories as well.
And yet again, another small hint that Juha Bach has some control over his descendants. First he robs all the "halflings" of their strength (Ichigo's and Ishida's mothers) and then he manages to "summon" Ichigo... maybe Ishida is being mind-controlled as well. I wonder if Ichigo is capable of even fighting the real Juha Bach...
You are drawing wrong conclusions out of right narrative.
"Juha Zangetsu's" reasoning behind why he was holding Ichigo back made sense - all those personifications are still part of Ichigo's mind and psyche itself, still. So its only normal that ONE side of his personifications would display self-doubt we have seen in ichigo again again - the only question was which.
As for control? Nope. Its more likely a genetic memory thing - Ichigo subconsciously KNEW who Juha Bach was, so he interpreted him as enemy leader of quincies and homed in to him to fight him. Its not something Bach decided to just do, its something Ichigo did without realizing why.
This does raise a question - will Ichigo slowly gain memories of how the war started, as his quincy powers progress integrating into his power set? could there be something in them to change his opinion over some things? Could he find out the REAL reason for this war that way?
So the person you quote is just... wrong. Since when is any speculation wrong?
Speculatoin or Speculating:
intransitive verb
a : to meditate on or ponder a subject : reflect
b : to review something idly or casually and often inconclusively
transitive verb
1 : to take to be true on the basis of insufficient evidence : theorize
2 : to be curious or doubtful about : wonder <speculates whether it will rain all vacation>
(To take to be true on the basis of insufficient evidence: THEORIZE)
"So its only normal that ONE side of his personifications would display self-doubt we have seen in ichigo again again"
Which personification was displaying self-doubt? Was it 'Hichigo'? Was it 'Old-Man'? The only 'doubt' that has ever been displayed has been by Ichigo himself. You can see that in the new chapter clearly. In this current chapter, 541, what's causes Ichigo's inner world to collapses? It's Ichigo's anger and doubt, not Old Man.
Old Man in chapter 112: "I hate the rain. It rains here, too. WHEN YOU ARE MOODY IT BECOMES CLOUDY. When you are sad the rain comes down.... In order to prevent that from happening, I'll lend you whatever power you need!"
