Bleach Chapter 537 Discussion

Skoliro said:
Does it bother none of you that Ichigo has:



1. Shinigami powers

2. Hollow powers

3. Fullbring powers

4. QUINCY POWERS?! (since he lost his zanpakto)



I mean come on! What's next? Soul King powers?



Well, that aside,



What the hell? I knew Juha Bach was some bad ass guy but him being the father of all quincys? What were the people in Sereitei thinking? Oh he's asleep, let's not fucking bother killing him cause there is no possible way of him returning and destroying more than half our fucking army.



And why did Aizen refuse? Could this be a reference to him being a quincy aswell? Ye, he might've lost his powers cause of what Juha Bach did but seeing how the plot twists and twists I wouldn't be surprised to see it happening.



aaaaand on the other side of the river you have Ishida Uryuu. I don't think he joined him to destroy Sereitei or anything. I think he's there purely for the fact of knowing more about what he did to his mother and what their motive is. Since he's some sort of smartass who thinks he is damn strong but gets his ass handed to him so many times. In the end he's gonna be captured by Juha Bach, Ichigo get's some new powers (how original...) saved Uryuu, kills Juha Bach and everyone lived happily ever after. (or some new villian comes and Ichigo gets new powers!)



Kubo Tite, please end this manga properly.



As Juha bach said the original Gotei 13 was a bunch of ruthless killers so I doubt they would let Juha bach live if they could kill him, so probably he was too strong for them to kill or was someway unable to be killed like Aizen is now.



I think the fullbring powers will not be used again and the arc will be forgotten like a bad nightmare. (Although I kind of want Riruka back since she was interesting). For the other three powers I think Isshin's backstory explained it very well so I have no problems, in fact Ichigo's quincy connections added a lot of intrigue for this arc and I like it.



After Aizen was defeated there were signs of him not being completely evil, so probably that's the reason he didn't join them and might help Ichigo later in the arc.



Ishida is an interesting piece in the arc I think, he might go the Sasuke route and goes completely evil because the shinigami killed his clan. Or he could become a spy and take revenge on Juha bach for his mother's death. Ishida's father will most likely be involved later on as well which makes it interesting because he's the last pure blooded quincy alive. Obviously the ending will be Juha bach is defeated and it will end in a happy ending but how it happens is what makes it interesting?

Uryu's joining Juha Bach?! I wonder if this will result in Uryu getting a power-up. He's always been one of my favorite characters and it's always killed me how weak he was. This is the perfect time for him to get one too since he'll probably become a major player within the Vandenreich now. Hopefully he gets a power-up and comes to blows with Ichigo! That would be a great fight to see!

OMG THIS CHAPTER WAS SO FUCKING GREAT!

Archnemesis said:


you: ok maybe its 2, but it could still be 3. No, no, its 3.





hence why its called speculations or theories... speculations are never been a conviction/decision



although i never denied now (after this chapter) that Ichigo is Isshin's formal son but Ichigo is also Juha Bach son because of the plot twist of his blood or heredity or genes or DNA and same is true with every Quincy out there



i know about genes or DNA or heredity but in Quincies case the Juha Bach heredity is abnormal (its not normal at all) for example they are affected by the Holy Selection power of Juha Bach





Archnemesis said:
Its been shown that ichigo rarely needs formal training to learn techniques. He usually gets the grasp of it while fighting. He saw Blut Vene being used, and in the moment he needed it, his innate quincy powers instinctively brought it forth. Visualising it was his training. The same way urahara figured out the Bullet shot yammy used after being fired 3 times.





that is a theory or speculation too, as for me i will wait for more chapters again to disprove that Ichigo is pure blooded quincy

HOLY FUCKING CRAP!!!

I think Uryuu is going to use Bach too get stronger, maybe learn some new Quincy techniques, then help out Ichigo.  Uryuu is always three steps ahead.

Jouten said:
It's a bit like Yu Yu Hakusho with one guy's blood flowing through all Quincies.



nah not exactly in Yu Yu Hakusho the reason Raizen calls Yusuke his son is because he is the ancestral grandfather of Yusuke, but its good to see that my little assumption about Juha Bach is correct



holy shit!!! Juha Bach called Ishida his son too (just like he called Ichigo son too) lol and the reason is his the grand ancestor of all Quincies, awesome chapter it was revealed why and how Ishida and Ichigo mothers died



and as expected Katagiri is the mother of Ishida and Ishida sided with Juha Bach? or Ishida will just be a spy and backstab Juha Bach later?



P.S. MAL is having troubles with posting threads lol i will just delete the thread i made or let moderators join them



EDIT:



and also this chapter almost confirms that Ichigo is PURE blooded Quincy

j0x said:
Archnemesis said:


And yes i agree with your definition of speculation, but the point is you're still speculating about things that are fact.



Please stop referring to ichigo as juha's son. He isn't. He is juha's descendant. Else i'd expect you to call every quincy alive his son, or your being inconsistent. (you aren't your great-great-great-great-grandfathers son are you? only in terms of being genetic biology - you sitll haven't expalined how quincy dont follow normal bloodlines btw)



im only speculating on the provided evidences of current and previous chapters, it says on this chapter that Quincies literally all have the blood of Juha Bach (literally) so it implies they got abnormal heredity, and again i know the basics about how heredity (DNA/genes) work its just that the Holy Selection proves that the Quincies heredity is different than the usual heredity we all know so yes all Quincies can be Juha Bach's child too (so in Juha Bach's perspective every Quincy is his child) but ye i agree that the formal father of Ichigo is Isshin too



and about Ichigo being pure blooded i will just keep it to myself from now on until a chapter proves or disprove it, Tite Kubo or any other author will not just say random things about pure blooded quincies and blut connection just to confuse the readers anyway



If by 'formal father' your conceding the poin that Isshin is his 'blood-father' and not Juha, good on ya for admitting it.



And your seriously taking this 'every quincy is juha bach's child'. Define your sense of the term 'child' because we may be arguing about two completely different things. If by 'child' you mean descendant, then yes. But please use the term descendant instead of child.



And id  like some citation for the whole 'dont follow biology properly' because to me it seems like some random theory you've come up with because i've yet to see them refer to that bit.