Bleach Chapter 537 Discussion

Who sealed Bach, Yamamoto? Poor Masaki had to die because of him...

I'm actually going to say that Jox's theory that Ichigo is a pure blood Quincy is possible, so long as the Quincy weren't created by some kind of cloning experiment. I know a lot of people are letting out groans right about now, so I'll go ahead and explain how it is theoretically possible.



It runs down to the question of where Juhabach as well as his wife/wives came from. Did they come from the world of the living, or did they originally come from Soul Society? There is a possibility that Juhabach was a former shinigami and the wive/wives he took were from Soul Society. If so, he would have likely have found spouses for his children from the same place before breaking away from Soul Society all together.



Thus one can say that (shinigami+quincy=pure blood quincy) because the first two generations would have been formed by (shinigami+shinigami with juhabach's dna=pure blood quincy). As j0x pointed out, Ichigo knows blunt without any training, something that Isshin said only a full blood Quincy obtains naturally. Which also means that Ichigo is also a pure blood Shinigami as well. Of course, one of the Zero Squad called him a "fake shinigami", but that may have been because Ichigo was doubting himself because of Juhabach.



That said... this is only a theory and I'll leave it at that.

Do u guys read this for the plot?? cause atm im only reading this cause i like to finish what i started lol :P

j0x said:
Jouten said:
It's a bit like Yu Yu Hakusho with one guy's blood flowing through all Quincies.



nah not exactly in Yu Yu Hakusho the reason Raizen calls Yusuke his son is because he is the ancestral grandfather of Yusuke, but its good to see that my little assumption about Juha Bach is correct





You where one with the ridiculous theories of Bach being his actual father and you insisted when i and others told you that thinking Isshin is not his father is bullshit.

Now you come and say that your theories where correct. Don't make me laugh dude.



j0x said:
Arlia said:
Juha Bach, the vacuum.



that reminds me if Ichigo rebels against Juha Bach's call of blood then he might die instantly by Juha Bach's using the Holy Selection again



or maybe Juha Bach cannot use Holy Selection on pure quincies or their is a huge time cooldown for that skill



Ichigo is probably an anomaly he can't control. That's why he was one of the special cases in Bach little notebook. Ichigo is not just a quincy since he has a hollow inside and shinigami blood so maybe his overly strange existence makes Bach unable to take his quincy powers. But even if he could take them Ichigo can still fight just fine. Until now he never used quincy powers anyway

http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php/topic,2770.msg128444/topicseen.html#msg128444



how i 'called it'. well not completely but close enough hehe

j0x said:
Jouten said:
It's a bit like Yu Yu Hakusho with one guy's blood flowing through all Quincies.



nah not exactly in Yu Yu Hakusho the reason Raizen calls Yusuke his son is because he is the ancestral grandfather of Yusuke, but its good to see that my little assumption about Juha Bach is correct



holy shit!!! Juha Bach called Ishida his son too (just like he called Ichigo son too) lol and the reason is his the grand ancestor of all Quincies, awesome chapter it was revealed why and how Ishida and Ichigo mothers died



and as expected Katagiri is the mother of Ishida and Ishida sided with Juha Bach? or Ishida will just be a spy and backstab Juha Bach later?



P.S. MAL is having troubles with posting threads lol i will just delete the thread i made or let moderators join them



EDIT:



and also this chapter almost confirms that Ichigo is PURE blooded Quincy



Isshin is a shinigami so how does Quincy + Shinigami = Pure blooded quincy?



Same with Ishida as Katagiri is only a mixed.

Zhou said:
Who sealed Bach, Yamamoto? Poor Masaki had to die because of him...



I'm wondering about that too. We need Fai XD



antonn said:
ramzes5a said:
so basically Juha Bach had to rape every Quincy mother, ....what a beast!!!

shocking

....wat



LOL XD

-Shuda- said:
Finally, we get some answers.  



- Bach is the main ancestor/king of all Quincy



- After his encounter with Yamamoto it took 900 years for Bach to regain his life, 90 years to regain his motive, and 9 years to regain his power (what, will it now take 9 months for him to get destroyed? lol)



- The Holy selection was 'responsible' for the deaths of Masaki and Katagiri (Ishida's confirmed mother)



- Ishida Uryuu is going Ichimaru Gin for this arc



- Ichigo is fired up



Now, I've never been this pumped up for an arc in a LONG while.  I can't wait to see all the characters, old and new, gather in one place.  Let it begin!



5/5



I completely agree with you on all points!!! Ichigo might go back to Urahara to get more training on being a quincy and how they mix with his soul reaper powers (to either accept them or discount them or maybe join them together the way he learnt how to deal with his hollow because now we know the hollow also comes from his mother as well as the blood of the quincies) and I like how he has all powers now!! Hollow, human, soul reaper and quincy!! I wonder if they will come across other quincies that were infected by hollows too, impure ppl that Juha Bach missed.



As for Uryuu, he might of gone there to see why the Quincies have decided to wage a war on the soul reapers. Spying and gathering info is something that Uryuu would do (because he might of been frustrated that there wasnt anything he could do to help the soul reapers but he could infiltrate the quincies camp seeing as he was a quincy himself and everyone says he's not a pure blood but i have to disagree. His mother was a mixed blood quincy, half human and half quincy and his father is a pure blood quincy, that would make Uryuu more pureblooded then not), but perhaps he wants more power so he'll "make a deal with the devil" as it were lol



Cant wait to see how it all turns out!! XD