TheUnknownOne said:
Fai said:
TheUnknownOne said:
Peralisc said:
Fai said:
Seriously, Kubo writes some of the most badass women characters in shonen genre, which is somewhat refreshing compared to an outright misogyny of kishi and oda.
So what do you think about Zaraki's little pink haired girlfriend to actually be some super strong shinigami that for one reason or the other ended up being as Nel (that green haired arrancar woman)
Are you kidding? Nel is actually a very strong, badass character. Yachiru also had her moment with the messenger, though I concede that she's a stereotypical bubbly girl, I fail to see how that's misogynistic. Not only that, the clear majority of Bleach female characters are capable in their own right contrary to the lack of badass/capable female characters in more older looking battle manga.
being bubbly or cheerful does not instantly mean the writer who wrote that is misogynist. Both Cheerful innocent characters and surviving victims can be written in many different ways. A female character does not need to be a hardass tomboy to display themes of empowerment and/or gender equality.
Not to mention that Yachiru shows no fear towards both Unohana and Zaraki and is shown to be quite dangerous in how others react to her.
And Nel? Now my memories of HM arc are a little hazy, but wasn't she one of the strongest pre-Aizen Espada capable of standing up against most of Aizen's Espada and only having been defeated in the past due to scheming and underhanded treachery of a clear villain who was unable to deal with the fact that a woman was stronger than him? And despite being defeated and having all of her power taken form her, didn't Nel still never ever acknowledge or even accept Nnoitora as stronger? She pretty much chided Nnoitora for being a child and displayed a strong sense of honor, as well as moral superiority. She also was shown to be intelligent, well-versed, interested in reading and only went down due an unfair distraction, which, Szayel pretty much stated was THE ONLY reason Nnoitora won. In fact, after that, Nnoitora got YEARS of unfair advantage and in the end STILL got schooled by her.
You're either reiterating my points or quoted the wrong person, because I know and recognize this. I am saying Kubo shows no sign of misogyny in writing his female characters. Japan as a country seems to represent females in a pretty suggestive manner and most shounen battle manga including both One Piece and Naruto do blatantly have stereotypical roles and such shoved down the viewers throat and hence, I applaud Kubo extremely for not doing that at all.
I am just seconding what you said and adding additional arguments by replying to the person you quoted at the same time.