Bleach Chapter 518 Discussion
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- #2
Okay, Urahara(and to the extent everyone) is clearly guiding Ichigo into finding out the truth behind the Soul King, so he could decide by himself what he wants to do. Still suspicious of what is going on with HM, though. So he will most likely "reforge" his sword and have to run away from the palace.
So Ichigo is pretty much confirmed to be part from the "disgraced" Shiba royal family - which opens a LOT of possibilities on what exactly caused the disgrace - was it something as simple as Isshin running away with a quincy-Masaki, was it Royal-Guard-Isshin somehow also defying some order, or was it something else entirely.
SERIOUSLY did not expect the rest of Shiba twist with Ginjou, which is great, as it seems Kubo is ready to start dropping the bombshell reveals of the truths behind various mysteries and hints that have already been placed.
Easily 5/5.
Kanic said:
Grimjaw is back baby, this time it's certain. Not to mention the X-cutioners as well? And they are allied with Ganju of all? Ganju..Ginju...uncle.....nyahhh it can't be.
Remember how Ginjou baited Ichigo with info on his father? well, maybe he was not lying.
Kanic said:
Jouten said:
The Full bringers died, but ended up in the Soul Society as spirits. Makes sense. I'm surprised that was the first time a plot point was brought up, since we haven't really had main humans die up til this point.
Way to go. It was so long since this was brought up that I didn't think of it.
I am not sure that works that way with people who are already sort-of spiritual beings. We'll have to wait and see I guess, but this is certainly intriguing.
Even if they were sort of spiritual, they still are humans. I'm guessing it would work the same for Chad and Orihime as well. It only makes sense that their souls move onto the soul society.
- #5
nice reference if the inspiration really came from DB.
...this is the place that Aizen coveted, I wonder if the transportation-pillar is the key or if he was looking for a way to open the deepest chamber of the floating palace, the place where the special spirit skill/forge lies.
- #6
Fai said:
There are problems with that, because.
1. Those who go to SS after death usually have everything about them reset.
2. That would mean that they would not have the same clothes and be in rukongai-standard rags.
3. They would not have the memories.
4. They would not have their powers(which they clearly do since Tsukishima has his sword)
Well Kuukaku did mention she saved them form the Rukongai, which could possibly indicate that they were "reborn" in SS. However, I don't ever remember people receiving a reset in memories. From the early manga chapters we saw Rukongai members who were trying to reunite with family members from their memories, but they don't always do because it is so vast. It is only when a member does in Soul Society do they get reborn in the human world with no memories.
Like an endless cycle of reiatsu balance.
What I think is that some of the fullbringers were reborn in SS, and due to having great amount of power in their previous life, they were born with similar power capability and with that Kuukaku was able to find them. Not to mention they probably have to do with Ichigo's weird family tree and power inheritance.
Might be. I do remember something about how Rukia sent a child spirit to SS in earliest chapters and then said that she lied about the possibility of him reuniting with his mother because he won't know her or something.
Hm, I just realized something....
Could Ganju actually be a fullbringer too? Remember the certain ability he was adept at using that was something only he could use. His surface/dirt/earth manipulation is something that is nothing like Kido, nor zanpakuto powers.
If Ganju is a fullbringer that would also explain why Ichigo is one.
- #8
Bringing back characters that were killed in the last arc? Check.
Grimmjow helping out the guys in Hueco Mundo and showing he's still alive? Check.
The Shiba siblings who we haven't seen in 300+ chapters? Holy shit, check.
Kind of getting excited about what's gonna happen next chapter.
- #11
Since we are bringing back the dead can someone explain why Gin is not back? He died in such a pathetic way that it makes no sense for him not to come back. I mean let's look at it he got an arm chopped off and slashed across the chest.......ok grimmjow lost an arm and orihime replaced it, ichigo got sliced and diced repeatedly and always gets healed so how did Gin die from those minor wounds? I mean even byakuya who got torn to ribbons by his own bankai is going to live and he was on the verge of death for what 4-5 chapters how is it fair that he will come back stronger then ever when Gin who played such a huge role since the beginning just died in an alley.
Can't help but think these chapters are being written for fan flavor characters instead of ones that are intricate to the story. No way a random low rank panther deserves to be in the final arc while a guy who helped with the rise and fall of the Gotei, rise and fall of Aizen after simply gets dropped.
- #12
One thing I'm really puzzling over is the fact that if it's so easy to get to the Soul King realm via Kuukaku's cannon, why didn't Aizen just hijack and use the cannon? o_O Would have been much easier than a century of planning, waiting and going through the whole winter war just to make the King's Key :P.
- #13
Grimmjow suffered for tens or hundreds of years to reach the Vasto Lorde, and when he fought Ichigo he wasn't able to reach it yet. Grimmjow coming back as a Vasto Lorde is pretty reasonable. That's of course, if he did turn into one.
The battles in Bleach is a battle of Reiatsu, Gin was one-shotted by Aizen, a god-tier character at Yamamoto's level, or even stronger after those transforms, so a slash from Aizen is way too much stronger than a slash from Nnoitra or Ulquiorra for example. (I'd love it if he comes back, but Gin is pretty much dead, as well as Tousen)
Well i think were giving Grimmjow to much credit here since nobody knows how long he was in HM but i would argue that he really wasn't suffering. When we first learn of his past we know he was an Adjuchas, become king of a gang of other Adjuchas, then proceeded to eat 3k hollows before his gang quits and goes well we already knew you were the pst and you would make it. After that he is already with Aizen so who knows time frame wise what that meant but by that point one would assume he would have been doing alright for himself. your right though he fought Ichigo 3-4 times and sure he wasn't at his "potential" ( man i feel like im going DBZ here) but neither was Ichigo and yet Grimmjow still could not win. That's the other thing if he makes Vasto Lorde great but at this point we don't even know if he did it and either way we know it means another Ichigo fight and i am willing to bet that again Grimmjow will lose so what's the point?
For the second part yes i agree a hit from Aizen packs a wallop but again it was an arm cut off and one cut across the chest there really is no reason the arm couldn't be replaced and the slash healed, not like Aizen cut him in half it was simply a slash. I just cannot believe such a character who impacted a lot of events that shaped the Gotei/Aizen's army/Aizen's downfall was left to die in an alley when another character that lost every single fight he has been shown in is walking around like nothing happened. I was fine with Halibel living and taking over HM that makes sense since she was a higher ranked officer and more powerful but even she got captured and beat so again i have no idea how Grimmjow is just wandering around aside from this being done to appease the masses.There's really no point of the fight of Ichigo and Grimmjow, that's why they'll become allies and fight side by side, the same thing goes for all the other characters. Also, one of the reasons of Grimmjow's comeback is because of him being loved by the fans, the same thing goes for Nel. Speaking of DBZ, Bleach is DBZ + Yu Yu Hakusho.
We still know very few things of what their motivations of coming and how they came and how each of them survived, so let's wait for more explanations, it's just a chapter of comebacks. Hell, even Grimmjow didn't appear and we still don't know if he turned into a Vasto Lorde or what he looks like now. We also still don't know the reason the Quincies are fighting too. There are lots of questions that need to be answered, so wait for answers for now.
Gin, as well as all 'souls', are not humans, they have no bodies, they have a spiritual form, which is different from a human's body. Gin was hurt by a god-tier 'creature' with a godlike Reiatsu and his spiritual form couldn't withstand the wound and thus died.