Bleach Chapter 509 Discussion

  • #90
Inarius said:
Candor said:
Now coming to Juha Bach, he died saying "forgive me Juha Bach-sama", which makes me think he's apologizing because he couldn't fulfill his objective, the Quincy's objective. In addition to that double-spread my theory is that the original Juha Bach is the Soul King, and Bach was asking for forgiveness from that root of all existence.



I think this theory is still better than the "there's another villain" one.

wanted to say something like this but never bothered to make the post



about that colored cover with the giant black blob that looks like Juha.



I don't think he should pay too much attention to it as I believe Kubo is setting us up for another mindfuck. That Juha shape is prob a means to throw us off from the real villain...sorta like what he did with Aizen.



this is most likely the final boss










It also explains why Hyori (hope i spelled her right) said she smells a "shinigami" right before the dude went to HM to set things up with fake Juha










Fake Juha's final words are prob referring to him failing his task like you said....Picture the following 3 panels in sequence and imagine this happening at the same time.



Kirge get's cut down for letting Ichigo escape through the garaganta or whatever it's called and at that very same time Yama finishes fake Juha which then apologizes to the real one who's staring Urahara down.










I've been wondering about these pages in addition to a sketch from repeat & reboot I can't find now (a guy with spiky hair's sketch). The first guy your post looks like a Quincy, Hiyori smelled a Shinigami, so I'm not sure it's the same guy, but one of these 2 (if they're not the same person) is probably the one who attacked Kirge, since as I mentioned previously opening a Garaganta is not simple and few are those who know how to open one.



About Bach's theory, I think I'll put it aside for now since there are still some mysteries and I'll think of the original Juha Bach as a person or just a mystery until we get further plot-points. As many people mentioned, the blondie will be the one to take control of things for now, he's not a normal subordinate after-all.
 
  • #91
So he's dead already! Does this mean that he was working for someone too?



They made Ichigo was totally useless in this battle.
 
  • #93
Wait, -sama suffix?! What's going on now?
 
  • #94
The chapter was OK, that wasnt really a plot twist kind of saw it coming becacuse if you watch Juha Bachs (fake) reaction you can see fear in his eyes and what not...Im actually really exicited for the War Poteinals and Kenpachis badass return to the battlefield
 
  • #95
Wait...WHAT? If I understood it right...That wasn't the real Juha Bach right? o_o Wow...
 
  • #96
And then, there was more.



Lol, there's another big baddy. Who would have thought.
 
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