Bleach Chapter 478 Discussion

And so Tsukishima is gay ;) him mourning Ginjo was hilarious

Da fug?

It's like kubo didn't get any work done during the holidays so he skipped all the flashbacks and character development we thought we were getting this week and just decided to rap up the arc.



-still don't know what the FB were hoping to accomplish with the power they got from ichi



-Ginjou dies a very anticlimactic death and leaves billions of questions about his character unanswered



-Jackie's alive but her boots got ruined, so its like what was the point of bringing her back.(although she could possibly get her fullbring form back by getting them repaired or getting new boots to use as her fullbring focus.)



-Fullbring power itself is still very vague especially when fused with soul reaper powers



-no type of setup for the next arc...

Fai said:


- Grimjow was planned to die but due to fan-popularity he will share a comeback with Halibel.

Now that's pretty lame. But hey, why not.



Fai said:


Also if you do not like "countless pointless fights" then please switch to different genre. Its shounen manga. Of course it will  have fights against enemies as main focus point and not hugging characters with peace offerings.



I didn't complain about the fighting but about it being utterly pointless. Let's face it, 90% of the shit that happened in the Karakura arc had nothing to do with either character or plot development and was ultimately just filler to drag it all out. This is the main reason why I think Bleach's quality dropped significantly at that time (actually already starting with Hueco Mundo arc, although it was bearable then).

Kubo got so engrossed with those fights that he (or at least the reader) completely lost sight of the plot. Those were like, a hundred chapters, with VERY little plot progression. And that little happened only in the last couple of chapters. I enjoy a good fight in a shounen as much as anyone, but if every single enemy turns out to be little more than cannonfodder without any background or impact on the story whatsoever, I can't accept that as good writing.



You often hear people complaining about Belach having no plot. I did that more than once myself. But it's not true, there is a plot. It's actually not even all that bad. It's just that you can barely recognize it with all the pointless (emphasize on that) fights dragging everything out way too long. The horrible, horrible pacing is what brings this manga down. Hard.



But I digress, this has nothing to do with the chapter discussion anymore.

I noticed that Orihime doesn't  remember Tsukishima anymore. Didn't Ginjo say that the effects of Tsukishima's powers would go away when he died? So he's probably dead since Orihime forgot about him, unless Urahara mindwiped her or something.

It seemed rushed but who cares.

Jouten said:
Also I would be very sad if Ginjo is actually dead, and the other Fullbringers like Tsukishima just walk out of the story. Would Ichigo actually kill Ginjo? Because thats what this all means.

This all feels to me like some sort of "game" Urahara and Isshin are doing against/in-shadows-of SS.



The very fact that such a huge part of chapter is missing and the part contained Urahara(who before implied to be quite good with healing arts) arriving at the scene, seems to imply that we dont know something.



Could it be that they are hiding Ginjou being alive from SS, for whatever reason?



Or maybe Ginjou IS dead and its used for Ichigo's motivations as well as the whole would Ichigo or would he not kill a person. Because lets face it. If Ginjou IS dead, Ichigo had to kill a person he had no direct conflict nor need to fight against. It was a person he had to kill out of NEED(ginjou being a danger)  instead of out of ideals or what that person has done.  



The story can go either way and so far I am going more towards the formed possibility of GInjou being alive.  But overall its too early to know exactly what is going on.



punkster90 said:
In the end this accomplished nothing. No backstory, no anything. Except that Jackie lived, big whooped. aNyone actually thought Renji was capable of killing her in the first place? We're back where we started on not knowing if Tsukishima dies or not. Knowing Kubo's pace and the way he loves his characters, g uess we won't be seeing the fullbringers again.

Nothing? This brought us A LOT of backstory to SS, shed more light into the whole gray morality of soul society, (if ginjou is dead) WAS FIRST TIME ICHIGO HAD TO WILLINGLY KILL A PERSON or (if ginjou did not die) set up a huge story arc.



It also hinted that something with SS is really wrong, showed that SS is shifting towards more liberal society instead of conservative values of the old, possibly setting up the Soul  king versus SS conflict.



it also developed the core cast of Ichigo, Inoue and Chad, exploring their bond and relationship, exploring Ichigo's psychological need for power.



And using vaizards as example? I am sorry but vaizards had their role played. They most likely rejoined SS now and when we see SS we will most likely see them there too.  SS are not the core cast that should appear every chapter.

This whole arc was kinda, meh.