Bleach Chapter 470 Discussion

  • #74
icegenie said:
grandy_UiD said:
Keiz said:
Rukia. Won't. Die

No one dies in Bleach, remember?



Erm, if I correct, Tozen died. Plus all the espadas. And it's not confirmed if Gin is dead since Kubo was vague about it and he loves teasing his readers.



Gin is dead. Out of Espadas only Halibel and Grimjow survived, since  
according to kubo's interviews both will play important role in mayuri's plotlineicegenie said:
Dokubachi said:
icegenie said:
grandy_UiD said:
Keiz said:
Rukia. Won't. Die

No one dies in Bleach, remember?



Erm, if I correct, Tozen died. Plus all the espadas. And it's not confirmed if Gin is dead since Kubo was vague about it and he loves teasing his readers.



He meant that none of the good characters ever dies in Bleach.





He said no one. And it depends on hipow you look at it. In shonen stories, the 'bad guy' always turn out to be not so bad after all..



Im sure it will turn out this way for ginjo and co too..



Its obvious:

1. Both tsukishima and ginou have been featured far too frequently in volume covers, color pages, etc(ginjou has his own themsong cd even) to be one-off villains.

2. The main guys are ALREADY facing them, way too early in the arc and without even knowing anything on what is going on. In fact Ishida's dialogue and a lot of other stuff points that Ichigo and friends know next to nothing

3. Pretty much EVERY fbvsshinigami fight has ended in cliffhanger

4. THe dream from the start of the arc is still unexplained.

5. Badge's purpose is still unexplained.

6. Ginjou's goals and connection to Isshin is still unexplained.



I am just waiting when the WHAM moment comes with some revelation about their goals and etc. I expect it to be the moment when Yukio drops the rooms.
 
  • #75
The cover for volume 54 is one of my favorite so far in Bleach! I was never a huge Rukia fan, but this art is pretty awesome!
 
  • #76
Fai said:
Hm, let's see,



- Apply  GT in various different ways.



It's still Getsuga Tenshou.



Fai said:
- Explode mountains with spiritual pressure alone.



That's reiatsu, that's not an attack.



Fai said:
- Increase his own speed exponentially with bankai.



That's part of his speed, not an attack.



Fai said:
- Do an earthsplitting attack in mugetsu form that would kill 99% of currently introduced and known characters who have no regen.



That's Final Getsuga Tenshou, which is still Getsuga Tenshou, which by the way is temporary as Ichigo loses it anyway.



Fai said:
Yes. I'd say thats quite a dangerous powerset, even if not as varied. However we do not know what else he learned from his training back then, since he had to kind of skip to his strongest stuff to keep aizen from evolving.



What power set?  It's still Getsuga Tenshou, it's just the more powerful version of it.



Fai said:
Oh god here comes mister annoying again:



Likewise, too bad not everyone agrees with you about your oh so perfect series.



Fai said:
Except that neither of them were featured in panels , nor gotten dozen of cover art pages. HOw many covers Ginjou has? Yeh.



The only other espada to have a very prominent volume cover was Grimjaw. And he is alive+will come back.



Yeah what?  I told you that they were filler characters, of course they're not in the manga, learn to read my posts.  The espadas, vaizards, and the Shinigamis all had their fair share of panels and covers because they played a big role in the story.



Fai said:
By bleach standards its too early. We are still in exposition/first-encounters part of the arc.



Of course that will probably be a couple hundred years by that rate.



Fai said:
A time-based-ability-wielding guy got cut in half. Call me cynical but he is far from dead.



The only thing he did was bulk up like Yammy and he's still just a human, he's dead unless someone brings him back to life otherwise he would've used it against Kenpachi.



Fai said:
And we did not exactly even see WHAT happened with sacrifice. Just boom. We do not know what she did exactly.



Well, with Kubo's terrible art, it's hard to tell, who cares if she lives or dies.



Fai said:
Yes hinging on vether he will or will not dissolve the chambers.



He's nothing but a whiny brat who foolishly got tricked into being frozen, all he did was summon a bunch of hollow-looking rejects, which didn't do anything important.



Fai said:
Shishigiwara was left on cliffhanger with asking on wether he wants to continue fighting.



He would have if he could, but his luck probability sucks now from using his stupid lucky knuckle bs.



Fai said:
And it would not be there if it were not to be used in some way or another. Also Kubo made sure to make sure that Ichigo FORGOT the contents of the dream minutes after he had it. which was quite significant.



Is it as significant as Karin visiting Urahara, Unagiya, Orihime eating donuts/hot dogs, or any other pointless scenes that went nowhere and was just a complete waste of time?



Fai said:
Gods, not this shit again.



You really take everything for truth, right? that must mean that Ichigo did shed away his reiatsu when facing aizen also, riiight?



So do you, you also pick at every insignificant detail.



Fai said:
Ukitake was bullshiting. Proven latter on when NO ONE recognized the badge and Ishdia got a bad vibe from it. Hence we still do not know why and how those badges are given. Enhanced by Ishida's doubts about SS this very arc.



Ukitake had no reason to do that, at the time, Ichigo would have had no reason to go after Ginjou, if there's some stupid secret with the SS.  Uryu should have told Ichigo, instead of waiting hundreds of chapters and still doing nothing, this is what we would call a retcon.  Kubo used this plot device in order to drive this Yu Yu Hakusho rip off arc.



Fai said:
Great assumption for an arc which still did not end, which we still do not have all the puzzle pieces connected.



It's not an assumption, we still don't know his motivations yet.  It's not puzzle pieces, it's more like dumping a pile of garbage and then expecting people to figure out what it is.



Fai said:
And he finishes off with incorrect term usage and a couple of fallacious statements he has no intention to ever backup with arguments. Tada~



And then this Bleachtard decides to scoff at anyone who doesn't agree with their pretentious opinions.
 
  • #77
Fai said:
Its obvious:

1. Both tsukishima and ginou have been featured far too frequently in volume covers, color pages, etc(ginjou has his own themsong cd even) to be one-off villains.



Even filler characters like Muramasa (sp?) have their own theme song.  These villains are featured on the covers because they're prominently featured in the chapters just like the Espadas and Shinigamis were.



Fai said:
2. The main guys are ALREADY facing them, way too early in the arc and without even knowing anything on what is going on. In fact Ishida's dialogue and a lot of other stuff points that Ichigo and friends know next to nothing



We're about a year/47 or so chapters into this arc, that's not too early.  We don't know much about them or even why they're even fighting.



Fai said:
3. Pretty much EVERY fbvsshinigami fight has ended in cliffhanger



1 cut in half, 1 'sacrificed', 1 almost frozen hostage, 1 defeated, and 3 ongoing so far.



Fai said:
4. THe dream from the start of the arc is still unexplained.



It's just Renji, Rukia, and Byakuya telling him to wake up, Ichigo has probably forgotten about it by now.



Fai said:
5. Badge's purpose is still unexplained.



http://www.mangareader.net/94-636-13/bleach/chapter-182.html.



Fai said:
6. Ginjou's goals and connection to Isshin is still unexplained.



We're still waiting on Ginjou's motivations.  isshin barely had any role or screentime in this arc whatsoever, he's been shoved aside again, same with Urahara.



Fai said:
I am just waiting when the WHAM moment comes with some revelation about their goals and etc. I expect it to be the moment when Yukio drops the rooms.



Ugh, the last thing we need is more Aizen-level trolling bs, especially from these underdeveloped characters.
 
  • #78
Rukia's soikatsui backfired? Haha, that was cute. xD



Ginjo having Ichigo's powers, wow just wow. Nothing that special. Come up with better ideas, Kubo... :\\
 
  • #80
@ everything machuran said



+ 1. Times infinity.



The only reason I even watch bleach is because I like the concept of Shinigamis with living swords. My dislike for Bleach is growing everytime the "living swords" part is downplayed, but honestly that is the least of my complaints right about now. I agree completely with your every point
 
  • #81
gmgkng said:
riruka is retarded why dont she just kick rukia's ass instead of blabbering her story = =



It's so we can waste more time and drag out this Fullbring nonsense longer than it needs to.
 
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