Bleach Chapter 470 Discussion
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- #5
Another boring chapter where completely black spaces are once again all over the place.
If this Fullbringer arc is considered to be the worst of all Bleach, at least according to the Japanese fans and some from the rest of the world, then why Kubo doesn't end it as soon as he can instead of dragging it longer than it needs to?
Because there are fans who still vote for Bleach in the weekly Jump rankings and it has bounced right back up from 2nd dead last to top 5 in the past 4 weeks.
Chapter-wise, quite snore-inducing. Ichigo is a ninny as usual and the only thing I am glad Kubo has done is to team up Ichigo and Ishida. I think it's a smart move - but it may well be his editor's idea and not his own, who knows.
- #7
Whenever I try to talk with the only guy I know that knows bleach IRL he gives me a list of abilities Ichigo supposedly has, which are:
Getsuga Tensho (Given)
Bankai (This is his sword's power, not his own. Ginjou would have had to steal Zangetsu itself to get Ichigo's bankai)
Hollow (Ichigo himself, or part of him at least. You can't steal what someone just fucking is)
Final Getsuga Tensho crap (Again, this is his Bankai plus 1, in order to do it you need Ichigo's sword...)
Other stuff he makes up on the spot.
I swear its like no one even has a sense of criticism when watching shonen. Or at least Bleach and Naruto :/
- #9
I knew you were going to blab about this again.
Likewise, I knew you were going to reply.
icegenie said:
About Riruka, she has to LOOK like she wants to fight. DUH.. If she plans to change sides, this is definitely not the right time. A hint of betrayal by her might screw things up. Turning Rukia is the best option because she doesnt have to put in much effort to show thats she's fighting and Rukia would'nt have a chance to attack.
Except everyone else is either preoccupied with their fights or are already defeated to care about her. Rukia already told her that as a Shinigami she can't harm her because she's a human. Things are already screwed up by the ones there were one-shotted in their fights. Riruka was the one who attacked her with her love gun cabinet and stuffed plushies, Rukia was the one who refused to attack a human because of her duty as a Shinigami.
icegenie said:
About Ichigo: Yes, by now we should be already used to the fact that Ichigo doesnt really fight by using his brains, but by his instinct (if thats the right word to use). And also that Ishida's the one with the brains. And also that their means of communication is not by words but by trust.
Ichigo didn't listen to Uryu, he tried to attack Ginjou without a single plan and when it didn't work, he wasted time by arguing with Uryu. That's not trust, that's called being a complete idiot, unfortunately Ichigo still hasn't learned from his mistakes.
icegenie said:
You can go ahead and say that they dont trust each other but Im sure Kubo will prove you wrong. Same with Isshin and Urahara.
He has to trust them now after they bailed him out again after making yet another mistake.
icegenie said:
Remember in the Aizen arc, Ichigo told his father that he will wait till Isshin is willing to talk.
And in 17 months they've barely talked at all, Ichigo was too busy being emo and depressed about his power loss.
icegenie said:
Im sure there is some confusion in Ichigo's mind about his father and Urahara but 'distrust' and 'suspicion' are not the words to describe it.
No, I used suspicious for Ginjou, not Isshin and Urahara. Ichigo distrusted them at the start of the arc, he's going to have to trust them because he has no choice but to accept help from his stupid mistakes.
- #11
Machuran said:
Even filler characters like Muramasa (sp?) have their own theme song. These villains are featured on the covers because they're prominently featured in the chapters just like the Espadas and Shinigamis were.
Except that neither of them were featured in panels , nor gotten dozen of cover art pages. HOw many covers Ginjou has? Yeh.
The only other espada to have a very prominent volume cover was Grimjaw. And he is alive+will come back.
Machuran said:
We're about a year/47 or so chapters into this arc, that's not too early. We don't know much about them or even why they're even fighting.
By bleach standards its too early. We are still in exposition/first-encounters part of the arc.
Machuran said:
1 cut in half, 1 'sacrificed', 1 almost frozen hostage, 1 defeated, and 3 ongoing so far.
A time-based-ability-wielding guy got cut in half. Call me cynical but he is far from dead.
And we did not exactly even see WHAT happened with sacrifice. Just boom. We do not know what she did exactly.
Yes hinging on vether he will or will not dissolve the chambers.
Shishigiwara was left on cliffhanger with asking on wether he wants to continue fighting.
Machuran said:
It's just Renji, Rukia, and Byakuya telling him to wake up, Ichigo has probably forgotten about it by now.
And it would not be there if it were not to be used in some way or another. Also Kubo made sure to make sure that Ichigo FORGOT the contents of the dream minutes after he had it. which was quite significant.
Machuran said:
http://www.mangareader.net/94-636-13/bleach/chapter-182.html.
Gods, not this shit again.
You really take everything for truth, right? that must mean that Ichigo did shed away his reiatsu when facing aizen also, riiight?
Ukitake was bullshiting. Proven latter on when NO ONE recognized the badge and Ishdia got a bad vibe from it. Hence we still do not know why and how those badges are given. Enhanced by Ishida's doubts about SS this very arc.
Machuran said:
We're still waiting on Ginjou's motivations. isshin barely had any role or screentime in this arc whatsoever, he's been shoved aside again, same with Urahara.
Great assumption for an arc which still did not end, which we still do not have all the puzzle pieces connected.
Machuran said:
Ugh, the last thing we need is more Aizen-level trolling bs, especially from these underdeveloped characters.
And he finishes off with incorrect term usage and a couple of fallacious statements he has no intention to ever backup with arguments. Tada~
- #12
- #13
Fai said:
Riruka = tsundere.
They do not talk.
She's been talking throughout the chapter, that's why she's been blabbing about being a normal human throughout their 'fight'. There was still no reason to turn her into a plushie.
Fai said:
The thing is, Ichigo of HM arc would have rushed ahead without hesitation. Ichigo of FB arc would have also done that. THIS ichigo after getting his ass bitten by his own distrust, for once, tries again to work as TEAM player.
That's exactly what Ichigo did, he didn't listen to Uryu at all and went after Ginjou without any plan, which is what he always seems to do. Distrust is Ichigo's own fault for trusting a complete stranger who's obviously suspicious over his own dad and Urahara. Ichigo isn't working as a team, he's not even listening to Uryu at all whatsoever (that's not trust), he's facing Ginjou without a plan, he's still the same old Ichigo, he hasn't changed a bit.
I knew you were going to blab about this again.
About Riruka, she has to LOOK like she wants to fight. DUH.. If she plans to change sides, this is definitely not the right time. A hint of betrayal by her might screw things up. Turning Rukia is the best option because she doesnt have to put in much effort to show thats she's fighting and Rukia would'nt have a chance to attack.
About Ichigo: Yes, by now we should be already used to the fact that Ichigo doesnt really fight by using his brains, but by his instinct (if thats the right word to use). And also that Ishida's the one with the brains. And also that their means of communication is not by words but by trust. You can go ahead and say that they dont trust each other but Im sure Kubo will prove you wrong. Same with Isshin and Urahara. Remember in the Aizen arc, Ichigo told his father that he will wait till Isshin is willing to talk. Im sure there is some confusion in Ichigo's mind about his father and Urahara but 'distrust' and 'suspicion' are not the words to describe it.