Bleach Chapter 469 Discussion

icegenie said:
What I am getting from the "anti-fullbring clan" is that there's really no use for the fullbring since Ichigo can get his powers back by being stabbed. Yes, he was stabbed in chapter 459 by Rukia again. Yes, then he got his sword back. But anyone noticed that the sword is different now? i.e. Zangetsu is different now.



Also, the fullbring training was to awaken the innate shinigami power (reiryoku?). Rmb that Rukia said that Ginjo only stole the 'top layer of Ichigo's power' in Chapter 460.



Lastly, it has always been Urahara's style to wait for the "something" to happen before taking action, yes?



1. Ichigo is still using Getsuga Tenshou, apart from a few X's on his body, it's still the same sword he had at the start of the series.  We haven't seen Zangetsu yet.



2. Urahara got Soul Society's permission to create the special Shinigami sword and have the Shinigamis give up some of their reiatsu for Ichigo.  If Fullbring had anything to do with it, Rukia wouldn't have waited until after Ginjou stolen part of Ichigo's fullbring and would have prevented him from making a fool out of himself.



3. Urahara had plenty of time, like 17 months since Ichigo lost his powers.  In fact, this whole mess could have been avoided altogether, if Ichigo got his powers back much sooner before this whole Fullbring nonsense came along.

Yeah, why Riruka is fighting ? -.-

i seriously don't understand why people aren't digging this 'fullbring shit'.. maybe u smartasses have other better ideas on how ichigo can get his powers back?? Yes' and as what Fai mentioned, there are still tons of stories to be told. Kubo himself said that he has no plans to end Bleach any time soon.



Also, it makes sense that Byakuya needs to have some space between him and the blades. Even when the blades are used for defence. Don't tell me the somehow Byakuya is all so powerful that blades can cut anyone else but him? We know that's not true since we saw Byakuya being cut by his own blades before.



And the famous trolling by Kubo.. misleading cover page. We have to wait awhile more before we see Byakuya owning Tsukishima.. ):

Gooooo Byakuyaaa kick his ass.;)

hovi said:
Now that Tsukishima has cut Byakuya, shouldn't the fight be over? He can just insert whatever past he want and make Byakuya sacrifice himself or something. lol..

That's what i'm thinking since i saw first color page with byakuya blood. Fight should be over. There is no need for Tsukishima to know his abilities and then counter it, when he can do anything in his past like become his younger brother. Kuchiki Tsukshima. right? sound nice. but i guess it's another way to continue fight when there is no need to.


And Rukia become cute plushie. good development.

Awww.......how cuuuuuute~

amerzeb said:
Why did kubo tite continue the manga after aizen defeat, i just dont get it, and now this fullbring its stupid

Because there's a shitload of material to go through?


Aizen's connection to Kurosaki family.

Isshin's past.

Soul King as an Enemy and the truth behind the soul king that made Aizen so desperate to oppose him any means necessary. More so the truth that should have made Urahara do the same.

What Mayuri found in HM.

Zeroth Squad and the shady "promotions" into it.

Royal Guard.

The secret and reason behind -getsu swords.


Thats just off the top of my mind, I am sure there's more.

hungry_bunny said:
Mangastream called it the "No damaga range", I liked that better... not that it matters, since I'm sure that Ichigo managed to get closer to him than that during the SS finale and Byakuya DID manage to shield himself with the small blades.


No he did not. Anime -adaptation might have had it, but he never used his petals or abilities at that range to himself.

Arashi89 said:


Tsukishima doesn't even try to mind control Byakuya.


It takes time.

Also for color pages - not the first time, we saw H2 Ichigo months before Ulqi fight, we saw certain characters there months before it happens, and we still have at least three color pages that still have yet to come true. Its called teasing :)


Han-yuu said:
hovi said:Now that Tsukishima has cut Byakuya, shouldn't the fight be over? He can just insert whatever past he want and make Byakuya sacrifice himself or something. lol.

That's what i'm thinking since i saw first color page with byakuya blood. Fight should be over. There is no need for Tsukishima to know his abilities and then counter it, when he can do anything in his past like become his younger brother. Kuchiki Tsukshima. right? sound nice. but i guess it's another way to continue fight when there is no need to.

And Rukia become cute plushie. good development.


Tsuki's ability takes some time to work. Remember CHad and Inoue? Most likely thats all we will see of their fight.

StripFeeling said:
Yeah, why Riruka is fighting ? -.-


She is tsundere. She can't admit defeat without going into dere dere :)



EDIT: Just noticed, Tsuki plainly says that his ability just worked on Bya:

"You can't have forgotten already, I just cut you".

Its almost conceited that Riruka thinks she can beat Rukia lolz.