Mahou Sensei Negima! Chapter 315 Discussion

I want one of the students to die. =[

lol jeez I wait for these chapters day in and day out to release... each and  every time it does its just awesome! Specially this one... left me with the "omfg" state of mind.



Eagerly awaiting the next chapter! May it come swiftly and without fail...^_^

HawthorneKitty said:
I want one of the students to die. =[



oh i'm not the only one with this...

mmm This is getting more intensive now :3

It's interesting seeing Fate fighting the other Fate (Quintum?)  Although, I do understand his reasons, because what he really wants is a fair fight between himself and Negi, and doesn't want anything to get in the way.



I love the confidence and backbone of Negi in the more recent chapters of the manga.  He's changed a lot since the beginning of the manga, that's for sure.

If people didn't know, there is only one Fate, the other are also from the averruncus serie but they aren't called Fate.

Tertium call himself Fate, seem like he despise his real name and probably the fact that he is a doll.

undead_blopa said:


Uhh... not really. If it makes you feel better, shonen manga tend to look a lot like each other; but unless I use a lot of imagination, I don't really see the resemblance.



Well, I do, so too bad. Yes, mainstream shounen series do look a lot like each other, but this particular arc is different.



Negima's similarities to Dragon Ball are pretty damn obvious. You'd have to be a complete dimwit to not see them.

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                        My oh my, Negi grew some major backbone, though it doesn't seem like we'll be seeing any if there was major power up in Negi, what with the focus turning to Tertium's fight for the the next chapter, I think that the fact Negi would consciously rip his opponent in half is certainly a step up.



I really want this new grittier Negi to stay, but that's highly doubtful.  

HawthorneKitty said:
I want one of the students to die. =[



i think chachamaru is as far as it will get. but then again....

Onibokusu said:
Ginga-Bishoujo said:


I mean, yeah if you turn the corner real fast some thing may look up like thing that happened in dragonball, but you are mostly pusshing it.



Honestly. The whole "it didn't invent it" argument isn't getting you anywhere.



What's more influential? Some random shounen series pre-1985, or Dragon Ball?



The demonic animal transformation which enables a power increase -> You got to be completely retarded for thinking dragonball invented this.



Name a popular pre-Dragon Ball series that used this plot device.



Training with a former ennemy -> You also got to be completely retarded for thinking dragonball invented this.



Name a popular pre-Dragon Ball series that used this plot device.



About turning to stone when you've used all your power, you gotta remind me where this was in Negima because the only stone transformation I've seen was caused by an acual spell.



Did the past 10 chapters not happen? Negi went much too far with his power which caused him to turn to stone. He drove himself into the ground, exactly as Vegeta did in his last attack against Majin Buu. It was far from petrification caused by a spell.



The point is not if an anime did it before, it is that the concept existed before.

If you just try to look it up a little in Japan's folklore there is many tales of youkai that are closer of an animal than a human, and there is also tales of hybrid being stronger than both human and these original youkai. Not only in anime but in Japan's culture, a beast is a symbol of strengh and a man turning into a beast is a man that get stronger.

The tale of the monkey Sangoku is one of them, which Dragonball was inspired from, because yes Dragonball was inspired from something existing.

Anime is just another medium to deliver a story and stories existed way before Tv was created.

Now I think it is getting anoying at all these people worshiping DB like it was the messiah of anime, like if it never existed then most of the thing now wouldn't exist, this is total false and a garbage argument.



Negi never turned to stone, he lost conciousness and that is all as he was stated to breath and have a pulse. You are conveniently assuming things to make your argument look valid.

viesiu said:
Wait... what? It seems I didn't quite get it in the last chapter, but did the "original" fate turned traitor? Or at least, did he attack one of the other Fates? :o wtf?!



It was quite easy to understand tough.



Tertium (Fate), the averruncus of earth, was fighting Negi's group and was defeated and when the group was fleeing the battlefield the other averruncus came up.



Sextum, the averruncus of water,  was dealing with the group that was stationed where Dynamis was

Quintum, the averruncus of wind, was dealing with the group that defeated Fate

Quartum, the averruncus of fire, was dealing with the escape route group.



Negi awakened, owned Sextum in one blow and went to save the escape route group that is stationned lower in the tower.

At the same time Fate also came back to his sense and decided to side with Negi's group for now and is actually fighting Quintum.



Fate is obviously forcing himself, the blow lent by Chachamaru's artefact was no little.

Fate wish for a fair fight with Negi. Some people would say that he is betraying his side but it is not true. Fate is persuaded that his path is better than Negi's and he want to fight it out. He want to give his all and crush his hope, he is planning to win but he do not want to use cowardly trick to do so.

He'll prove to him fair and square that his idealist mind will only bring destruction to the world.  This is the whole realist vs idealist the usual shounen manga bring up, of course the idealist will most probably win, which means Negi.



Talking about Negi, he's starting to be a little broken but well I like it this way.

Negi seems to be somewhat much more aggressive than I've ever seen him. He's giving no mercy to anyone in his way. It just gave me satisfaction to see him tear Quartium apart as easily as he did. I feel that Negi isn't quite "human" as he used to be, as he seems to be more demonic in terms of power.



I'm really looking for an all out battle between Tertium and Quintum, just because two bad guys fighting each other is interesting to think about.



Best chapter in my opinion we've had in a while. Currently they have less than 20 minutes left until the activation of the destruction of the magic world. I estimate they have about 14 or so minutes left at the current end of the chapter. Negi should be able to make a last minute save, a bit cliche-ish but it's the matter of how he does it that makes us keep reading.