D.Gray-man Chapter 218 Discussion

whitetear said:
Yes, Jasdevi does but they're twins.



In the chapter 187, we can the real form of the Earl (with a sword) and 12 apostles on his side, so I think Jasdavid is the real form of the 10th and the 11th.



whitetear said:
Can you explain a little more about why you feel they need to be two people ?.

The chapters you gave me don't prove Mana Walker = Mana Campbell. And more in the chapter 187, Wisley said the Earl has lived during 7000 years  whence the name "the Millennium Earl", so we have two characters (two Mana), because Mana Walker is dead.



En the chapter 187 we can see the Earl think about Nea but not Allen. So Mana Walker isn't  Mana Campbell but they both can drive the Ark for a unknown reason.

http://www.mangakong.com/manga/D_Gray-Man/218/14

http://www.mangakong.com/manga/D_Gray-Man/218/15



If the person who is attacking Allen in this chapter really is "Mana", then it can be concluded that Mana has some traces of Noah genes. He has the darker skin of a Noah, plus he has crosses etched into his forehead. The second I saw that, I flipped out.

Earl + 12 Noah:

Yes, that's what I was talking about. The Earl (Noah #1) + the next 12 = Noahs #1 to #13. Noah #14 is not "protecting" the Earl. That's obvious even before chapter 188 where the 14th says he will succeed at killing the Earl this time, just as he tried to do 35 years before. Doesn't sound much like he's there to "protect" the Earl, does it?



It's perfectly clear if you read that whole section. They don't talk about the 14th until Wisely brings him up offhand after the discussion about 13 Noah is *over*. Then Road says to shut up about him because it's a "personal matter." And Wisely doesn't even call Nea "the 14th." Instead, he calls him "that guy."



Earl living continuously:

As I said before, The Earl's character is partially based on the legend of a man who lived for centuries by *changing bodies*. When he swaps bodies, he keeps all his old memories. Wisely didn't say the Earl has live in the same body for 7000 years. Mana could easily just be the Earl's latest body.



Mana Walker/Campbell thing (just so you can be absolutely sure):

If there were two separate Manas, you wouldn't have Allen saying this:

167, p. 8: http://www.mangareader.net/210-15258-8/dgray-man/chapter-167.html



And in the chapter before that, Cross outright states Mana Walker was Nea's older brother:

166, p. 11: http://www.mangareader.net/210-15257-11/dgray-man/chapter-166.html

Did you read my post right before yours? If the theory I and the others on another forum have worked out is true (and I'd say it's very convincing), it will explain what the arc is about and make 218 make a lot more sense.

snowfallingxrain said:
stevobread said:
I just noticed that the Earl calls him 'Mana D. "Campbell"'.



Was Neah ever actually called 'Neah Walker'? Did Mana actually take Allen's last name instead of the other way around?



I'm not 100% on this but I'm pretty sure that "Walker" is neither Allen, Mana, nor Nea's last name.

Mana and Nea's real last names were Campbell, and then perhaps Mana changed his last name to Walker after Nea died and then Allen adopted Mana's new last name "Walker" when Mana adopted him.







coincidence ? I think not!

None of that made sense and by the time DGM starts up again, I will have become even more confused.  Such is the life of a Hoshino follower.

whitetear said:


Tatarata said:
Hum, but who was the man inside the Earl's globe? Wasn't he Mana crying for Noa?Globe? You mean the hallucination of Mana crying over passed out/fainted/injured Nea?

Not that image. The man who looks like a Noah crying in the fight between the Earl and Allen. Is that Mana?

I thought this chapter wasn't suppose to be released until next month?



Edit: Wonder how Hoshino will wrap this up? Hopefully she clears up everything before the end. Mana is the cause of everything apparently. Earl loses it. ROAD APPEARS... IN A FLASHBACK (Gah!)