HardyHaHa said:
Actually it might be bad translation since i watched the subbed version since i don't speak Japanese but in episode 83 when they fuse, and swat krory away they explain that they were originally a single/one noah, in the manga again might be bad translation in 103 in that say scene (its manga 103 i believe) after fusing jasdevi explains basically the same thing explaining that the two are one noah.Someone brought that up earlier and I disagreed at first but I think he (she?) was correct about that in the end. I've had a look at the twins' song (in Japanese) and it strongly implies they were once one human baby but that at some point, "one cradle became two" if I recall correctly. Then in chapter 187 (which by coincidence for completely unrelated reasons I am currently skimming in Japanese) it is said they count as one Noah. I was aware of that before but I thought it meant they were two people with one shared Noah memory ("bonds," or 「絆」). Now I'm not so sure. While it's still possible they're two people with *one* Noah's soul, it really does look more now like they were in fact one *single* regular human before even awakening as a Noah.
however im noticing so many people having difficulty figuring out what really going onThere are two reasons for this and neither of them is that the story itself is confusing. Maybe a little challenging but nothing most people wouldn't be able to figure out with a little attention paid to a decent translation.
However, unfortunately, a lot of people refuse to refresh their memories during/after a hiatus, and so have forgotten many things. For example some people read the latest chapter (218) and thought they were seeing an important character's face for the *first* time when in fact his face was actually shown in chapters 188 and 203 already.
On top of that, scanlators out there have done what they could but they are not official translations and some have made some major errors. For example, I've discovered where a misunderstanding of some dialogue in one chapter led to one scanlator leaving out the one and only mention (!) of a certain character who is probably going to become very important later on. (That scene *might* be in the anime since it's from right before the HQ invasion arc, but it's been a while for me too so I can't remember if they cut it out.) Another scanlator changed an extremely important line of the Earl's from chapter 188 that is supposed to sound very familiar (!)-- I think it's an important clue --into something almost completely unrecognizable.
I don't want to bash the scanlators-- they mostly did fine for the rest of it in each case-- but this is a licensed series and the official translation is always going to be the best. If you absolutely can't buy the volumes, borrow them at a library or at least join a site/forum where people can help you figure out what's what though. I'm happy to help clear things up for you if you want. I do love discussing DGM. :)
and there seems to be so many confusion that holes are forming, one hole for me is krory's ability when he fought jadevi i would think the author would have gone the root of making what happened when krory blood left his body a kind of innocence evolution/activation/survival as with Allen and Lenalee, after all who can really fight consciously without any blood in there body and who can fight as blood with no heart or no brain. I know he isn't a main character like Allen and Lenalee but after that i really think his innocence should have evolved as there's didI totally agree Krory's blood battle was an oddity and perhaps requires further explanation, but it doesn't necessarily have to mean he goes crystal type (or "evolved"). Rather than that, I'd say it's more like how Allen's innocence supports his body when he can't move/fight on his own (esp. against akuma-Mana, Eliade, & the Lvl 4 battle) and protects his body when he's injured (which is further discussed later on, along with the "problem" of a Noah being supported by an innocence, incidentally).
Weird innocence behaviour doesn't end with Lenalee's crystal type evolution. There's much more that might even help you better understand what went down with Krory... if you read further on...
a next issue is Allen and Lenalee are the only ones shown to have forced there innocence to 100% activation, i had really expected to see the others do the same to fight the Noah clan in the ark as Tikki and just a few lv 3 akuma had beaten general yeegar so easily, it also makes me wonder if it was the forced 100% activation that allowed Allen's and Lenalee's innocence to jump start there evolution.Another character exceeds 100% later in the manga and what happens with that person relates to other questions you have as well...
I know this is getting long but just bear with me alittle longer (and sorry for any typo or grammar errors) the whole Allen Noah genes thing seems rather foolish though i get what the author is doing, it has certainly be done before (think about the whole Underworld Hybrid warewolf vampire thing) but innocence is deadly to Noah's genes especially Allens' as he had sought to exorcise the Noah genes from Tikki how can Noah genes be following through his body the same time his innocence is doing the same thing.There a few things I can say about this but most of them are massive spoilers. x_x
Anyway, remember when Allen thought he "exorcised" Tyki on the Ark? What actually happened was that although Tyki was definitely hurt (AND this is something Allen didn't expect to happen-- he only thought the Noah memory would go away and Tyki as a human being would be okay --it's important that Allen was wrong about that/i], btw), his Noah memory wasn't really weakened all that much and simply went berserk. Just before Kanda managed to kill Skinn Bolic, his inner Noah did the same thing (but too little too late in that case). If you choose to continue reading, you should remember these things because they relate to what happens later.
Anyway thanks for reading i know that must have been hard with all my potential errors, so basically does the mana address these points and make them more believe able/ come together better, and with all the difficulties so many, maybe even you yourself might have understanding what is going on, is it really worth getting into the manga or am i going to end up disappointed like naruto shippuden.No worries. You only had a few typos really. Only thing I'm really wondering is what manga chapter you left off on so I can talk about stuff up to that point instead of only up to where the anime ended???
Again i haven't read the mana yet, i am downloading them as i write this and will see what i come up with after reaching the latest chapters, these are just my two scents from what i have scene others mention.I hope reading through it will help you figure things out. I can help a little as well. Please say what chapter you left off on next time though? Then maybe we can answer your posts more precisely. Have a great weekend. :)
