NANA Chapter 84 Discussion

this thread is like a time capsule of sadness :(

been waiting for years i have lost all hope of getting new chapters and even if we did it feels like it wont be satisfactory

wuxiaspear said:
Are there any news on Yazawa Ai?

The last news presented was in 2013 that she had drawn a new "Junko's Room" chapter but that was it, unfortunately. That came from animenews and it's really hard to find anything else that is credible. I've tried.



Ugh, this manga. It gets me every time.

Right THERE.

Ugggggh.

That stupid, awful, beautiful twist that makes me tear up anytime I re-read it. The realistic and emotional aspect of the story is really endearing.  I haven't ever had the time to rewatch the anime but it holds a special place in my heart with the way the music is able to come to life. The scene when Nana stands on the table and sings is still one of my favorite parts.



And the characters, I want to punch them in the throat and cuddle them simultaneously. All of them with their flaws and shitty decisions while still being amazing and beautiful. Their the best part.



It's really depressing that it's been so many years that this manga has gone with updates but I'm happy to hear that she is out of the hospital and recovering. There were numerous rumors floating around as to what her medical issues were, even a stroke but nothing was confirmed. As a fan, I selfishly do hope that one day she continues but if she doesn't, that's okay too. I'm really grateful for the 84 chapters she did give to us of this amazing story. It's one of my favorite mangas.



I rate it 10 even without the proper ending. And I'll always be a fan and cheering her on. And I'll probably still be checking in another five years to see if that update ever comes. Damn you Yazawa and you're beautiful manga, you got me for life.

As Nubiengoddess, I also think Little Ren is Takumi's child. I also hope he is, as a matter of fact because I quite liked Takumi.



I've first watched the anime, but being utterly unsatisfied with its ending -because I simply wanted to know and experience much more of the anime, much-much more only because I have been and still am irrevocably in love with the story, entirely captivated by its fascinating appearance, I decided to also read the manga... Oh my goodness!!!

Both manga and anime are very, very good quality. In my humble objective opinion, the series is quite a successful one. In my outrageous/mad/fanatic/subjective opinion, I believe this to be one of the best mantas I've come across up till now.



I seriously think the manga won't be continued  which is a pity, but it has already been 3 years since she hasn't submitted anything. 3 or 4 years? Well, I've read the manga two years ago, but if I remember it clearly, the last submitted chapter was in 2009. As far as I know, Yazawa-san recovered her health, but can't read anything more on the internet about it -whether she's been all quiet or there's something else going on between, I do not know. But I cannot eliminate this deep pain I face every time I remember the series. As devoted fans, I do believe we deserve some more consideration. On the other hand, I do not know anything of Yazawa-san's life, so I cannot seriously argue. We are, nevertheless, in our most righteousness to complain and feel frustrated about it. I wonder if we can so easily forget all about it. This is clearly a pity.



The series = wonderful.



I did like Takumi very much.even though in the anime he seems more like a monster, I feel that in the manga we experience several of his features. I think he loves Hachi in his way, he is attractive for he is a serious and responsible man. This is the kind of man Hachi needs- she wants comfort and security to ensure her life, her well being and security. I understand Hachi's feelings. Even so, she still loves Nobu - I was happy to see her go to Takumi, though. I felt that for one single time she had been mature and responsible. That was the most reasonable choice.

About Ren, I feel devasted. Even more about Nana.



Personally, I do not enjoy guessing. I'd simply like to read the next chapters of the story. Then I'd be happy. Guessing about it won't make me feel anything. Is not as if I only want to know what will happen. It is clearly not enough.

If the author would appear tomorrow to tell us what she thought of drawing further on the manga, I wouldn't feel a thing. What I need is to read about it. Only guessing or knowing about it is not enough.



Predictable or not, I'd like to read the rest of it.

Hopefully the author come back and finish it some day, or you we will have to make up our own endings lol.

RIP Yuri, you was good while you lasted.

So, I just finished watching the anime, and then went back and read the manga from the start. I've got to say, that I'm now officially on board the Nana bandwagon, and hope like hell that this story sees its way through to the end. Good luck to Ai Yazawa, and good luck to all the fans who eagerly await answers. What a great story.



And since there seems to be a lot of speculation as to who the two kids belong to, I'll post my theory here.



I believe that one of the children is Nana Osaki's.



I'll refer to Nana Osaki as Nana, and Nana Komatsu as Hachi, for clarity's sake.



At first, I thought that Satsuki had to be Nana's daughter, and that Ren had to be Hachi's son, based on merely physical appearance. Ren has the same hair color as Hachi, and Satsuki vaguely resembles Nana. But once I thought about it further, it seemed almost too obvious.



Here's some reasons why the first scenario might not add up. Ren seems to be easily a year or two older than Satsuki. Hachi was pregnant for a while with her baby before Ren died. But up to the point that Ren dies, we're never given any indication that Hachi is close to her due date. When Ren died, Nana hadn't seen Ren for about a month. I know there was mention of Nana forgetting to take birth control pills  a few times while Ren was still around, but even if he did get her pregnant, Nana's child wouldn't be that much younger than Hachi's. Less than a year in age difference. Yet Satsuki seems considerably younger than little Ren. There is also a scene in the manga where Hachi and Satsuki are out shopping and talking about Valentine's chocolates. Satsuki finally confesses to Hachi that she wants to buy chocolates for Shin. After that, they go to Jun's place. When Hachi tells Jun that Satsuki wants to buy chocolates for Shin, Jun replies that Satsuki has definitely inherited Hachi's genes/DNA. If Satsuki wasn't really Hachi's daughter, then why would Jun say that? After Jun mentions that, Hachi's reaction is that of a mother worried that her daughter has inherited her taste in men, not the reaction of someone who's hiding Satsuki's true identity from Jun. Its because of this that I think little Ren may be the child of Nana and Ren Honjo. But not from the Tokyo era. I think Nana may have got pregnant with Ren's child before he left for Tokyo. Ren had been in Tokyo about two years before Nana decided to go. Right before he tells her he's going to Tokyo, Nana mentions wanting to go take her pill because she can't afford to have a child at the moment. But rather than go take it, her and Ren start fooling around and then he tells her he's leaving. After that, a year and nine months pass before Nana mentions buying a ticket for Tokyo. I think its possible that Nana gave birth to Ren and then gave him up to an orphanage. If you remember when Nana was lecturing Hachi about mothers not taking having a child seriously, my first instinct was that she felt so strongly about it because her mother had abandoned her. But after this possibility, I think that maybe she felt strongly about it because she gave up her own child back in her hometown, and thus followed in her mother's footsteps. Maybe down the line, Hachi finds out about Nana and Ren's child and adopts him from the orphanage. I could definitely see her doing that to have one last thing to keep her closer to Nana. And I wouldn't see Takumi putting up a fight about it because he and Ren were close. It's mentioned several times that Ren is very independent and will often wander off alone. Could this be mirroring his parents' personalities, and also because he may not have had a lot of affection early on if he spent the first couple of years of his life in an orphanage? Nana also was expelled from high school, so that wouldn't interfere with keeping having a child a secret. Although, I don't recall how long BLAST stayed together after Ren left, so that may pose a problem with this theory, as I can't see Nobuo and Yasu being completely in the dark about this if the band was still together while Nana was pregnant. There is a narrative line by Hachi, in the chapter where, around Christmas,  she receives the envelope with pictures of a long-haired Nana singing. Hachi says, "Every year when Chrismas gets closer, I pray to the sky for a miracle. Not for angels or Santa Claus. But for the night when Nana and Ren can meet again. At this point in time, Ren Honjo is already dead. Could Hachi be referring to little Ren? Or could she just merely be praying for the impossible, or for Nana and Ren Honjo to meet again in the afterlife?



Although, little Ren being independent could be a product of Takumi's personality, and he could be Hachi's/Takumi's son after all. Nana could have got pregnant before Ren died, and just hasn't realized it yet, and Satsuki could be slightly younger and just smaller than Ren. But then that contradicts the DNA comment that Jun made. Ugh, I just wish I could find out for sure. Either way, I still think one of them is Nana's/Ren's child.



I'm not sure if this is how the story will end up or not. But its the theory I'm going with at the moment. Thoughts?



Let's all hope for the best for Ai Yazawa, and a conclusion to an amazing story.

O please just give us some information :(



I wish we could just get some closure and with the flashs into the future through out the series it just makes me want to know what will happen so much more.

We haven't even seen Hachiko have her baby yet T_T

This series is soo wonderful and so very powerful, I fell in love with it from the very first time I watch the anime.. It took me a very long time to start reading the manga but I just couldn't hold off any longer.

Ren's death was so so very powerful that I had so many chills running down my spine it was ridiculous.

I wouldn't even mind if the author released some notes just detailing what would happen next and left it at that.

Though I don't believe it's the author fault and I can understand why the fans feel anger towards her. She hasn't gave us any information on her condition though if she is really that sick I can see why she hasn't.



I'll be always checking for updates on her condition, I just hope one day we do finally hear something.