Fairy Tail Chapter 506 Discussion

Fai said:
AllenNoah said:
Janvie_Pascal said:
THIS END overrating is ridiculous. Where do people get that he's acnologia level and that Gray should stand no chance? LOL and how is END dragon level?



Acnologia fearing END is bullshit, and is an assumption made by characters. Feat wise, Acnologia shits on END. Btw, the fight with Dimaria was off-panel so we don't know END bypassed time travel, and the fact is Dimaria's time age seal hasn't done shit to top tiers.



Gray standing a chance against END is legit. He stomped Base Marde (the same fucker who was babyshaking LFD Natsu/Yaio Twins)  proving how slaying advantage is massive against characters above you, and should be logically a lot stronger now, so it makes sense why he's holding his own against END.



So yea we should all admit Gray fighting on par with END MAKES SENSE. Especially considering how many times Gray has fought the fucker and knows his habits.



All you're fanboying on END's fanboy hype too hard here.

What I don't get is:

Cheria stomps Dimaria: Totally legit because God Slayer

Gray matches (not even beats, matches) E.N.D.: Complete asspull



Like...what?



Godslayers have proper hype and we saw them be strong and Dimaria is a nobody spriggan fodder whoa ll have been disappointing. And people did complain about that fight too.



END Is an endgame hyped up Zeref's ultimate demon supposedly stronger than Tartaros, strong enough for Acnologia to feel its a threat, strong enough to rival and kill Zeref and so on.

Gray is what? An FT member who can do some ice tricks and who without his father's convenient asspull power-up demon slayer gift should not even be threat to Lucy/Erza/Mira/Wendy/Gajeel/etc let alone the supposedly strongest creation of Zeref.



Dimaria fight and most of spriggan fights were bullshit. But this like bullshit^squared. Hell this fight should not even be happening in the first place, since the only reason it is happening is because Mashima felt it fitting to have Gray act dumb and stand in the way of the only thing capable of killing Zeref.



In a world of good writing - Gray's role at most would be about getting knocked out by a single punch, while we focus on LUCY(aka the actual  heroine of the manga) trying to bring Natsu back

In world of MASHIMA writing we instead got a rehash of that shitty avatar arc scene but with even more Gray-wanking. And with some Erza wank on top of that.



Try to be logical instead of being a biased hypocrite.



God slayers never had any fucking hype. What manga are you reading?

Chelia was bested by Wendy at Base, Orga got fodderized casually by Jura.

So tell me where this God slayer hype is from?



END is strong enough to kill Zeref because he's a weakness to him, nothing to do with being stronger than him.



Your fucking messed up in the head now. Like literally messed up if you truly believe Gray at base wouldn't be a threat to Lucy, Erza, and Gajeel, considering Gray fucked up a spriggan in his base to begin with. Like this is must one of the most ridiculous biased statement I have ever seen.



Ugh no, in a world of shit writing, Natsu oneshotting Gray would fit that mode. In a world of shit writing, Lucy saving Natsu would be accurate. Cheesefest, romance fueled garbage for shipping, like get out.



The chapter was good writing especially the fight, it made legit sense, if you don't have your END wank goggles on.



Gray fighting on par with END isn't wanking, it's called common sense, logic and good writing. The only wanking going on is from the END fanboys.

Makarov will be back since Tenrou Island is connected to the continent now. He'll get de-petrified sooner or later.

I don't like how Gray is fighting on equal terms with END, even though Gray is a devil slayer. Because dragon slayers couldn't do much against dragons in the seven dragons arc. So, why is Gray fighting equally with Natsu, who is END, who is the master of all demons. How does that even work??? Erza stopping the fight was alright, but, I expected a bit more brutality, meaning Erza should have got injured at least. Laxus' scene with Mavis was heartwarming. 3/5.

AllenVonStein said:
Rex_Connor said:
You have to be completely blind and wearing some really thick goggles, if you're actually implying that END "overwhelmed" Gray there. It was an even fight through and through.





Natsu would pretty much be dead if it wasn't for Gray, considering if he did kill Zeref, Natsu dies.



Blaming Gray is dumb since he's not mentally stable.







Gimme a break lol if i am blind how i am writing this

btw like @Fai said I was about to write a long post answering but I saw this bit and just gave up. Not feeling any point in arguing with gray fangirls.





you sound like a Gray fanboy , i am neither fuck Gray and Natsu .



Who said I was talking about you?



Well you're in the same league as Fai. Ignorance is bliss I guess.

AllenNoah said:
geearf said:
ino0987 said:
LOL Erza stopped both their powerful attacks so easily and she's not even seriously hurt. too much OP dude

I'd guess they pulled back when they saw her.

Looked like they didn't notice her until she caught them.

Well in manga it's hard to say what happens in between panels.

Though I'm sure we've seen that scene around the beginning of FT, and that was just her strength/ speed.

Ughgh, why do I keep wasting time reading this when I could be rewatching rwby again?



I am sorry, should I have been moved by Makarov's supposed death? Should I have cried or applauded?



Because all I did was laugh.

Because Makarov dodged a certain death that could have been emotional and make sense gazillions of times and this one is just anticlimatic and random.

Because Makarov has been absolutely irrelevant for hundreds of chapters already.

Because with how many asspull revivals this arc had I simply don't care here and expect him to be fine eventually.

Because far superior death scenes like Juvia or Gajeel got undone on a blink of an eye.



He could have died against Acnologia, he could have been oneshotted by Zeref at the start of this arc and it would have made sense and felt impactful. Here? Here it frankly feels like Mashima just randomly decided to "kill" him because everyone is complaining on how he does not kill anyone. And even now I am using "kill" in quotations because this is LOLMASHIMA and Makarov might just be fine next chapter.





What is depressing is that Mashima was perfectly fine at writing great character deaths in RAVE, which had impactful and interesting deaths and actual stakes. Here? Makarov's fate felt even more anticlimatic and irrelevant than anything.





Notice how I want to avoid talking about Gray/Natsu bullshit? Because it is even worse.



Not only Gray has enough asspull power to apparantly match a dude who moved through stopped time, but also we get a "Because she is erza!" moment in the end of the chapter. The most Gray should have been able to do is to land few hits in, in rage and then get oneshotted. But not only he somehow gets enough plot power to match Natsu, but also hey guyse! Erza is equal to END in power now I guess! She can randomly locate them on a whim and stop the fight between them as if it is nothing! Because she is Erza!  I guess she should just walk up to Zeref and stab him in the head, because she is erza too! She can even stand up to the supposeldy most powerful demon ever created and his asspull plot-rival as if it is nothing! Give me a break, Mashima.



1/5

Janvie_Pascal said:
THIS END overrating is ridiculous. Where do people get that he's acnologia level and that Gray should stand no chance? LOL and how is END dragon level?



Acnologia fearing END is bullshit, and is an assumption made by characters. Feat wise, Acnologia shits on END. Btw, the fight with Dimaria was off-panel so we don't know END bypassed time travel, and the fact is Dimaria's time age seal hasn't done shit to top tiers.



Gray standing a chance against END is legit. He stomped Base Marde (the same fucker who was babyshaking LFD Natsu/Yaio Twins)  proving how slaying advantage is massive against characters above you, and should be logically a lot stronger now, so it makes sense why he's holding his own against END.



So yea we should all admit Gray fighting on par with END MAKES SENSE. Especially considering how many times Gray has fought the fucker and knows his habits.



All you're fanboying on END's fanboy hype too hard here.

What I don't get is:

Cheria stomps Dimaria: Totally legit because God Slayer

Gray matches (not even beats, matches) E.N.D.: Complete asspull



Like...what?

The fight between Gray and Natsu is really confusing me, what exactly are they fighting for? i get Gray promised his dad and all but if E.N.D. was made to kill Zeref then what s the point of killing Natsu? Gray getting consumed by the devil slayer power and Natsu by whatever is really not a good answer for me... I thought Juvia would appear and end their pointless fight but i was wrong oh whatever i just hope they stop it already. Also, why did Erza stop them barehanded? just to look cool? she has an armor that stopped Jupiter but noooooooo gotta go and destroy my hands to look sadder when i cry for Makarov's death. I liked Makarov but i somehow felt it was about time he stepped down.