Fairy Tail Chapter 504 Discussion
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- #67
MonkeyDMike said:
Actually,I wanted a fight between them where Natsu was in his final END form,possibly his etherious one and lost his mind and Gray would be the one who would use his power to supress Natsu's demon side.I just can't stand pointless fights like these.While,I completely agree with your arguments,Gray didn't need to use his devil slaying power,because he didn't encounter any demons during the war so he wouldn't have lost his sanity in the first place,since he knew the concequences of this magic's usage.
I also wanted a good fight, but the way I see this fight goes is that both have totally lost themselves to their demons and are just trying to kill each other. I don't think Gray would be the one stopping Natsu/END, I think that was Lucy's purpose to begin with.
What do u mean he didn't encounter any demons?
well Yes Gray didn't have to use his devil slaying and he knows how dangerous that power is but that's the main reason why he had that in the first place, it was his trump card in defeating END but instead of controlling that demon slaying power, he let the demon/power control him therefore losing his sanity again due to juvia's death and his past traumas hunting him and now natsu being END, this dude snapped.
I remember how much hyped I was for a Natsu vs Gray fight,after the end of Tartarus arc.Now,with the current arc after all this stupid pointless melodrama,"sacrifices"(except Sherria's lost magic),boring oneshots and now this fight that started for stupid reasons from both sides killed this hype for me,with the direction this whole arc took.If this arc doesn't end any time soon,I can see people who will stop hyping this manga,even when Acnologia appears for a fight.
Kaanso said:
MonkeyDMike said:
Kaanso said:
MonkeyDMike said:
RaySapphire said:
MonkeyDMike said:
Gray's reason makes no sense at all.I understand his hatred about Deliora and the other demons,but going so far to accuse and kill his friend,when he didn't do anything to his family,Ur and Juvia is just stupid.Just go kill the one who created them ffs.
MonkeyDMike said:
Gray's stupidity is ruining it.Let the waifus fix these two.
Alright again, gray doesn't really make sense and is stupid right now, because he is not on his right mind. and yes I agree that it's not Natsu's fault, and also at first I was like "Gray why can't you just freaking kill zeref???" since he started it all! but the fact that he lose his sanity and that he's so focus and obsess at the one task that his father gave him which is defeating END is the reason why he is fighting his best friend right now.
yes the two girls are the ones who's going to replenish their husbandos minds
Actually,I wanted a fight between them where Natsu was in his final END form,possibly his etherious one and lost his mind and Gray would be the one who would use his power to supress Natsu's demon side.I just can't stand pointless fights like these.While,I completely agree with your arguments,Gray didn't need to use his devil slaying power,because he didn't encounter any demons during the war so he wouldn't have lost his sanity in the first place,since he knew the concequences of this magic's usage.
Kaanso said:
MonkeyDMike said:
Gray's reason makes no sense at all.I understand his hatred about Deliora and the other demons,but going so far to accuse and kill his friend,when he didn't do anything to his family,Ur and Juvia is just stupid.Just go kill the one who created them ffs.Natsu also thinks that Lucy died(maybe Dimaria's timestop gave him the wrong conclusion about her status) and he is going straight to find Zeref.Natsu vs Gray started.Meanwhile,Irene looks for Mavis,who used her projection magic to encourage the rest of the guild to continue fighting the Alvarez's battalions.An ok chapter I guess,but Gray's stupidity is ruining it.Let the waifus fix these two.
This is such a stupid post. You're expecting a guy who's lost his sanity due to his magic and mental trauma and expect him to make sensible decisions. WTF.
Funny enough you completely ignore Natsu is being just as stupid.
The only stupid post here is yours that lacks any serious argument.Natsu vs Gray is currently wasted right now.Natsu has a reason that acts like that and he is suffering in his current state and doesn't try to kill his friends.Ofc he is also acting stupid,because he is going to kill himself but at least his reasons make more sense than Gray's.You talk about a mental trauma,when he didn't even check Juvia if she was alive,because she was(another bs of this arc),used his devil slaying magic,which was completely unnecessary,tainted by it and now blocks the way of his best friend,who wants to kill the one who created the demons.The fact that you attack me when you try to defend a character,who even though has one of the most interesting backstories in this manga,has a power,which he gained via asspull and now is being wasted as well,shows clearly your fanboism.The whole direction of Gray's objective has turned into shit right now,just like the whole arc.If you like it,good for you,but let people have their own opinions about this.
Seriously, you retarded mang? When you're seriously pissed off and rage, you don't go ahead and check people's pulses, because all of the anger in your system is preventing you to do something small, much like how Natsu couldn't check Lucy's pulse when she was dead in his eyes. How the hell did Gray get a asspul powerup in comparision to Natsu's FDK and Gajeel's ISD. It shows your level of stupidity and bias especially when DeS is one of the best written powerup in the manga, where Gray is sticking to his element, has foreshadowing, logic consequences and isn't a freebie unlike Natsu's constant bullshit powerups and asspulls. Clearly your stupidity and Natsu fanboyism has turned into shit. You constantly forget that Gray's mental health isn't correct right now. Jesus christ, learn what Mashima is entailing in the manga, instaed of throwing shit up your ass lol.
Oh god the one who insults people over a f*cking manga is the retarded one.If you had read my posts in the previous chapters,you would have already known that I don't favor Natsu at all.Can you explain with serious arguments then how it's possible to inherit a Devil Slaying Magic out of nowhere?Can you?Nope.The same applies with Natsu's and Gazeel's two-elemental powerups.Fairy tail is the god of asspulls and then you try to distinguish which kind of asspulls makes more sense to you just to defend your favorite character.Pathetic.I'm not gonna waste more of my time with brainless people,who don't know how to make a proper conversation, like you.
You're doing the same thing, brainless fucking twat.
He didn't inherit the powerup, the powerup Gray got was transferred to him. We see transferred magic all the way back in Tenrou. Suggesting it's an asspull, when it's well explained, foreshadowed with consequences, is just laughable.
LMFAO
So by your logic:
Magic transferred to Natsu from Jellal,Laxus,Zancrow,Atlas Flame and transferred magic from Rogue to Gajeel->asspull
Magic transferred to Gray from his dying father->perfectly explained
Yeah,go on contradicting yourself,little fanboy twerp.
- #68
for god's sake let's hope that the battle dosen't end after they find out that Lucy and Juvia are alive. And that Gray can even stand up to Natsu.
For fuck's sake he just traumatized one of the top members of the spriggan 12, there is no way that Gray stand's a chance.
I hate the fact that Gray just accepts Natsu as E.N.D and want to actually kill him. Sure he hate the Zeref Demons but he's known Natsu for a long time now and should know better.
Decent chapter, cant wait to see what Mashima has in store for us
- #69
I never thought to see natsu vs gray this early. But oh well
I feel like this arc is wrapping up too fast, I don't know, probably just me.
Okay, so gray thinks juvia is dead? and natsu also thinks lucy is dead? haha! this is getting interesting! but BOYS! why can't you freaking know how to check for a pulse? your waifus are just unconscious/need medical care asap (Juvia) but the first thing you think of is that they are dead? then suddenly go on rampage!? I mean gray come on! you left juvia whos life was hanging on a thread and could've have had really died, if not for carla & wendy sigh.
Well anyway atlst now we know how much Gray and Natsu loves their waifus! to the point that they went berserk! so HOORAY to gruvia and nalu shippers out there! AND ALSO! we get to see NATSU VS GRAY!!! The hype of their fight has been going on ever since the reveal of END a lot of fans has been waiting for this moment.
ALRIGHT! I HAD TO GET THIS OUT OF MY SYSTEM!
Natsu did nothing! it was not his fault and Gray is stupid to fight him BUT I understand Gray, Whats funny is that gray told natsu's losing his sanity but what I also think is that gray was also not on his right mind, He is stupid because HE IS NOT OKAY, HE IS NOT FINE! and seeing juvia died for him... That was it for him! he have lost so many loved ones and Juvia was also the one who help him cope up with all his losses bit by bit, and now she's gone! or he thinks she is! all because of the demons of Zeref so he had nothing else to lose! He had to vent all his grief! (invel wasn't enough huh?) he's too overwhelmed at juvia's death, at his responsibility of defeating END and at the fact that Invel told him who END really is! He's gone insane! and he's set to finish his true goal that is defeating END. so I don't blame him for fighting natsu but I'm not saying his making the right choice either. My point is all the sufferings and rage he's had leads him to this, He's so obsessed at defeating End that slowly darkness is eating him away, making poor decisions. so he's not himself right now!
Okay sorry it turned out to be a rant haha! I just pity this poor dude, I felt sorry for him because I see some people bashing, insulting and blaming him at fighting natsu! well when you think about it no one even cared about the fact that he's suffered so much! HE IS TOO BROKEN! He just lost his whole family! UL! ULTEAR!(well she didnt really die) fought lyon! fought his puppet father! and had to live to see him die again and now he just lost his future (Juvia) and Juvia's death was the trigger! so Im not surprise this dude snapped!
Im probably gonna get some hate or statements that Im too bias here but honeslty I don't normally defend or am interested at grays character but come on give this dude a break! he doesnt deserve the hate.
AND I NEED TO SEE NATSU VS GRAY FIGHT! now thats a good reason! thanks mashima! hail to fan service! hahaha! not mad.
Now I don't like to see natsu one shotting gray, I just want a good fight! a proper fight! Yes gray could not defeat end but Invel mentions that Gray is the only person who can defeat END If gray releases his demon slaying magic thing and we still haven't seen gray at his demon form YET we also don't know how powerful that demon slaying is, but right now I think gray is pushing himself to his limit, his wound is opening. we'll see what happens, but Im sure their waifus gonna interfere any minute now so Im not worried about this at all
wait Makarov is still alive???! haha! just kidding please mashima, Im seeing him clutching his chest, not again. you had your chance of killing him at tenrojima. you had your chance sigh In Natsu's Case, time was stopped by Dimaria so there's no way he could know if lucy was still alive (i assume her heart has stopped too during dimaria's freeze) before he asks Dimaria about what she did, END's rage consumed Him
- #70
Actually, it can be explained that they have partially lost their minds / souls.
Natsu's END transformation has begun, and he is starting to develop the instinct that all demons have to return to Zeref to kill him.
Gray is also losing himself for overusing demon slayer magic. According to Invel, the magic consumes the soul of the user.
On top of the physiological changes, they also bear the mental weight of mistakenly thinking their women have died. They are both unaware that bit by bit, both are losing parts of themselves. Which is why Juvia wanted to find Gray quickly, because she knows that he will lose himself mentally thinking that Juvia died.
- #71
I feel like this arc is wrapping up too fast, I don't know, probably just me.
Okay, so gray thinks juvia is dead? and natsu also thinks lucy is dead? haha! this is getting interesting! but BOYS! why can't you freaking know how to check for a pulse? your waifus are just unconscious/need medical care asap (Juvia) but the first thing you think of is that they are dead? then suddenly go on rampage!? I mean gray come on! you left juvia whos life was hanging on a thread and could've have had really died, if not for carla & wendy sigh.
Well anyway atlst now we know how much Gray and Natsu loves their waifus! to the point that they went berserk! so HOORAY to gruvia and nalu shippers out there! AND ALSO! we get to see NATSU VS GRAY!!! The hype of their fight has been going on ever since the reveal of END a lot of fans has been waiting for this moment.
ALRIGHT! I HAD TO GET THIS OUT OF MY SYSTEM!
Natsu did nothing! it was not his fault and Gray is stupid to fight him BUT I understand Gray, Whats funny is that gray told natsu's losing his sanity but what I also think is that gray was also not on his right mind, He is stupid because HE IS NOT OKAY, HE IS NOT FINE! and seeing juvia died for him... That was it for him! he have lost so many loved ones and Juvia was also the one who help him cope up with his losses bit by bit, and now she's gone! or he thinks she is! all because of the demons of Zeref so he had nothing else to lose! He had to vent all his grief! (invel wasn't enough huh?) he's too overwhelmed at juvia's death, at his responsibility of defeating END and at the fact that Invel told him who END really is! He's gone insane! and he's set to finish his true goal that is defeating END. so I don't blame him for fighting natsu but I'm not saying his making the right choice either. My point is all the sufferings and rage he's had leads him to this, He's so obsessed at defeating End that slowly darkness is eating him away, making poor decisions. so he's not himself right now!
Okay sorry it turned out to be a rant haha! I just pity this poor dude, I felt sorry for him because I see some people bashing, insulting and blaming him at fighting natsu! well when you think about it no one even cared about the fact that he's suffered so much! HE IS TOO BROKEN! He just lost his whole family! UL! ULTEAR!(well she didnt really die) fought lyon! fought his puppet father! and had to live to see him die again and now he just lost his future (Juvia) and Juvia's death was the trigger! so Im not surprise this dude snapped!
Im probably gonna get some hate or statements that Im too bias here but honeslty I don't normally defend or am interested at grays character but come on give this dude a break! he doesnt deserve the hate.
AND I NEED TO SEE NATSU VS GRAY FIGHT! now thats a good reason! thanks mashima! hail to fan service! hahaha! not mad.
Now I don't like to see natsu one shotting gray, I just want a good fight! a proper fight! Yes gray could not defeat end but Invel mentions that Gray is the only person who can defeat END If gray releases his demon slaying magic thing and we still haven't seen gray at his demon form YET we also don't know how powerful that demon slaying is, but right now I think gray is pushing himself to his limit, his wound is opening. we'll see what happens, but Im sure their waifus gonna interfere any minute now so Im not worried about this at all
wait Makarov is still alive???! haha! just kidding please mashima, Im seeing him clutching his chest, not again. you had your chance of killing him at tenrojima. you had your chance sigh
- #72
Gray's reason makes no sense at all.I understand his hatred about Deliora and the other demons,but going so far to accuse and kill his friend,when he didn't do anything to his family,Ur and Juvia is just stupid.Just go kill the one who created them ffs.
MonkeyDMike said:
Gray's stupidity is ruining it.Let the waifus fix these two.
Alright again, gray doesn't really make sense and is stupid right now, because he is not on his right mind. and yes I agree that it's not Natsu's fault, and also at first I was like "Gray why can't you just freaking kill zeref???" since he started it all! but the fact that he lose his sanity and that he's so focus and obsess at the one task that his father gave him which is defeating END is the reason why he is fighting his best friend right now.
yes the two girls are the ones who's going to replenish their husbandos minds
