Fairy Tail Chapter 504 Discussion

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  • #18
Gray and Natsu will be stopped by their waifus Juvia and Lucy in the coming chapters



nice to see Mavis making her move now
 
  • #19
What a great chapter !

This chapter is called "Natsu vs. Gray" and I only saw 3 pages of their fight on 20.

Great, Mashima !



(PS: it's a sarcasm).
 
  • #20
Kaanso said:
MonkeyDMike said:
RaySapphire said:
MonkeyDMike said:
Gray's reason makes no sense at all.I understand his hatred about Deliora and the other demons,but going so far to accuse and kill his friend,when he didn't do anything to his family,Ur and Juvia is just stupid.Just go kill the one who created them ffs.

MonkeyDMike said:
Gray's stupidity is ruining it.Let the waifus fix these two.

Alright again, gray doesn't really make sense and is stupid right now, because he is not on his right mind. and yes I agree that it's not Natsu's fault, and also at first I was like "Gray why can't you just freaking kill zeref???" since he started it all! but the fact that he lose his sanity and that he's so focus and obsess at the one task that his father gave him which is defeating END is the reason why he is fighting his best friend right now.



yes the two girls are the ones who's going to replenish their husbandos minds



Actually,I wanted a fight between them where Natsu was in his final END form,possibly his etherious one and lost his mind and Gray would be the one who would use his power to supress Natsu's demon side.I just can't stand pointless fights like these.While,I completely agree with your arguments,Gray didn't need to use his devil slaying power,because he didn't encounter any demons during the war so he wouldn't have lost his sanity in the first place,since he knew the concequences of this magic's usage.



Kaanso said:
MonkeyDMike said:
Gray's reason makes no sense at all.I understand his hatred about Deliora and the other demons,but going so far to accuse and kill his friend,when he didn't do anything to his family,Ur and Juvia is just stupid.Just go kill the one who created them ffs.Natsu also thinks that Lucy died(maybe Dimaria's timestop gave him the wrong conclusion about her status) and he is going straight to find Zeref.Natsu vs Gray started.Meanwhile,Irene looks for Mavis,who used her projection magic to encourage the rest of the guild to continue fighting the Alvarez's battalions.An ok chapter I guess,but Gray's stupidity is ruining it.Let the waifus fix these two.



This is such a stupid post. You're expecting a guy who's lost his sanity due to his magic and mental trauma and expect him to make sensible decisions. WTF.



Funny enough you completely ignore Natsu is being just as stupid.



The only stupid post here is yours that lacks any serious argument.Natsu vs Gray is currently wasted right now.Natsu has a reason that acts like that and he is suffering in his current state and doesn't try to kill his friends.Ofc he is also acting stupid,because he is going to kill himself  but at least his reasons make more sense than Gray's.You talk about a mental trauma,when he didn't even check Juvia if she was alive,because she was(another bs of this arc),used his devil slaying magic,which was completely unnecessary,tainted by it and now blocks the way of his best friend,who wants to kill the one who created the demons.The fact that you attack me when you try to defend a character,who even though has one of the most interesting backstories in this manga,has a power,which he gained via asspull and now is being wasted as well,shows clearly your fanboism.The whole direction of Gray's objective has turned into shit right now,just like the whole arc.If you like it,good for you,but let people have their own opinions about this.



Seriously, you retarded mang? When you're seriously pissed off and rage, you don't go ahead and check people's pulses, because all of the anger in your system is preventing you to do something small, much like how Natsu couldn't check Lucy's pulse when she was dead in his eyes. How the hell did Gray get a asspul powerup in comparision to Natsu's FDK and Gajeel's ISD. It shows your level of stupidity and bias especially when DeS is one of the best written powerup in the manga, where Gray is sticking to his element, has foreshadowing, logic consequences and isn't a freebie unlike Natsu's constant bullshit powerups and asspulls. Clearly your stupidity and Natsu fanboyism has turned into shit. You constantly forget that Gray's mental health isn't correct right now. Jesus christ, learn what Mashima is entailing in the manga, instaed of throwing shit up your ass lol. u only showed us how much retarded u r , insulting people over a Fictional Manga LUL, so u can inherit Des just like that ? isnt that the biggest ass pul in the manga along side His reason for killing END ? this is just how useless Gray is, Smart u say ? turning on his best friend just like that ? for me, Gray's charactère died when he met his Father in tartarus arc, since then, he became shittier and Shittier as time passes by
 
  • #21
Geekwoglasses said:




To be fair, END just wanted Gray out of the way so he could go to Zeref.



Which doesn´t make sense, except he´s not sane at his current condition.

The same thing applies to Gray.



Like I explained above the only valid explanation would be both of them being not themselves. It´s hinted that Natsu isn´t but we haven´t seen/heard for such an excuse for Gray. But it isn´t fully clear either if Natsu is sane due to his ability to talk and even recognize him.

The requirement for this situation to work is clarification on what the mental state of both parties is, else it´s only based on vague assumptions who are possibly excuseable on Natsu´s part, but not on Gray´s.



Overall it looks like just a poor attempt to force the two into a "deathmatch" for the audiences entertainment in order to drop some fakeout drama.

 
  • #22
Does anyone else think that Eileen's backstory is going to be like Minerva's in that it explains why she turned evil but doesn't justify her sadistic behavior.
 
  • #23
how can you said this shit is interesting? we all know how the outcome of this battle. yes, it would be another nakama bullshit then the fight will end and they will act like nothing was happened
 
  • #24
A couple things annoyed me about this chapter. first is grays reasoning to kill natsu, he may hate the demons of zeref but come on natsu is his friend who he has known for years so it should click in his mind that natsu has got nothing to do with everything that went on in his past, whereas I can kind of understand natsu's reasoning due to the desire to kill zerefmaking it so he can't think clearly



Second of all he barely won against Invel who is as strong as, if not weaker than dimaria due to her having God takeover magic who natsu traumatised last chapter. but against a partially transformed END (who even acnologia fears) he's fighting on par with him?



Where did the sudden power up come from?
 
  • #25
next chapter - Trump Card



inb4 they build a wall to keep Alvarez immigrants away

I'm sorry but this joke had to be made
 
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