Fairy Tail Chapter 504 Discussion

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  • #11
ichii_1 said:
This gray x natsu thing is horrible, gray wants to kill natsu cause he's related to the group who killed ur? XD XD XD



Yet people still say Gray is rational and smart.
 
  • #12
Both are blind and have very little reason to fight.



Not sure why Natsu just assumed Lucy was dead...
 
  • #13
Gray's reason makes no sense at all.I understand his hatred about Deliora and the other demons,but going so far to accuse and kill his friend,when he didn't do anything to his family,Ur and Juvia is just stupid.Just go kill the one who created them ffs.Natsu also thinks that Lucy died(maybe Dimaria's timestop gave him the wrong conclusion about her status) and he is going straight to find Zeref.Natsu vs Gray started.Meanwhile,Irene looks for Mavis,who used her projection magic to encourage the rest of the guild to continue fighting the Alvarez's battalions.An ok chapter I guess,but Gray's stupidity is ruining it.Let the waifus fix these two.
 
  • #14
Geekwoglasses said:
ichii_1 said:
This gray x natsu thing is horrible, gray wants to kill natsu cause he's related to the group who killed ur? XD XD XD



Yet people still say Gray is rational and smart.



He is rational and smart, you know when he's actually doesn't have his mind corrupted by his magic, or someone close to him and his beloved dying infront of him as usual.  Judging Gray's intellectuals due to the fact  his mental health isn't exactly normal , makes you look stupid.
 
  • #15
MonkeyDMike said:
RaySapphire said:
MonkeyDMike said:
Gray's reason makes no sense at all.I understand his hatred about Deliora and the other demons,but going so far to accuse and kill his friend,when he didn't do anything to his family,Ur and Juvia is just stupid.Just go kill the one who created them ffs.

MonkeyDMike said:
Gray's stupidity is ruining it.Let the waifus fix these two.

Alright again, gray doesn't really make sense and is stupid right now, because he is not on his right mind. and yes I agree that it's not Natsu's fault, and also at first I was like "Gray why can't you just freaking kill zeref???" since he started it all! but the fact that he lose his sanity and that he's so focus and obsess at the one task that his father gave him which is defeating END is the reason why he is fighting his best friend right now.



yes the two girls are the ones who's going to replenish their husbandos minds



Actually,I wanted a fight between them where Natsu was in his final END form,possibly his etherious one and lost his mind and Gray would be the one who would use his power to supress Natsu's demon side.I just can't stand pointless fights like these.While,I completely agree with your arguments,Gray didn't need to use his devil slaying power,because he didn't encounter any demons during the war so he wouldn't have lost his sanity in the first place,since he knew the concequences of this magic's usage.



Kaanso said:
MonkeyDMike said:
Gray's reason makes no sense at all.I understand his hatred about Deliora and the other demons,but going so far to accuse and kill his friend,when he didn't do anything to his family,Ur and Juvia is just stupid.Just go kill the one who created them ffs.Natsu also thinks that Lucy died(maybe Dimaria's timestop gave him the wrong conclusion about her status) and he is going straight to find Zeref.Natsu vs Gray started.Meanwhile,Irene looks for Mavis,who used her projection magic to encourage the rest of the guild to continue fighting the Alvarez's battalions.An ok chapter I guess,but Gray's stupidity is ruining it.Let the waifus fix these two.



This is such a stupid post. You're expecting a guy who's lost his sanity due to his magic and mental trauma and expect him to make sensible decisions. WTF.



Funny enough you completely ignore Natsu is being just as stupid.



The only stupid post here is yours that lacks any serious argument.Natsu vs Gray is currently wasted right now.Natsu has a reason that acts like that and he is suffering in his current state and doesn't try to kill his friends.Ofc he is also acting stupid,because he is going to kill himself  but at least his reasons make more sense than Gray's.You talk about a mental trauma,when he didn't even check Juvia if she was alive,because she was(another bs of this arc),used his devil slaying magic,which was completely unnecessary,tainted by it and now blocks the way of his best friend,who wants to kill the one who created the demons.The fact that you attack me when you try to defend a character,who even though has one of the most interesting backstories in this manga,has a power,which he gained via asspull and now is being wasted as well,shows clearly your fanboism.The whole direction of Gray's objective has turned into shit right now,just like the whole arc.If you like it,good for you,but let people have their own opinions about this.



Seriously, you retarded mang? When you're seriously pissed off and rage, you don't go ahead and check people's pulses, because all of the anger in your system is preventing you to do something small, much like how Natsu couldn't check Lucy's pulse when she was dead in his eyes. How the hell did Gray get a asspul powerup in comparision to Natsu's FDK and Gajeel's ISD. It shows your level of stupidity and bias especially when DeS is one of the best written powerup in the manga, where Gray is sticking to his element, has foreshadowing, logic consequences and isn't a freebie unlike Natsu's constant bullshit powerups and asspulls. Clearly your stupidity and Natsu fanboyism has turned into shit. You constantly forget that Gray's mental health isn't correct right now. Jesus christ, learn what Mashima is entailing in the manga, instaed of throwing shit up your ass lol.
 
  • #16
TheSinOfWrath said:
Rex_Connor said:
TheSinOfWrath said:
Kaanso said:
MonkeyDMike said:
Gray's reason makes no sense at all.I understand his hatred about Deliora and the other demons,but going so far to accuse and kill his friend,when he didn't do anything to his family,Ur and Juvia is just stupid.Just go kill the one who created them ffs.Natsu also thinks that Lucy died(maybe Dimaria's timestop gave him the wrong conclusion about her status) and he is going straight to find Zeref.Natsu vs Gray started.Meanwhile,Irene looks for Mavis,who used her projection magic to encourage the rest of the guild to continue fighting the Alvarez's battalions.An ok chapter I guess,but Gray's stupidity is ruining it.Let the waifus fix these two.



This is such a stupid post. You're expecting a guy who's lost his sanity due to his magic and mental trauma and expect him to make sensible decisions. WTF.



Funny enough you completely ignore Natsu is being just as stupid.





TheSinOfWrath said:
i Used to hate Gray but i hate him even more now, HE IS SO DAMN STUPID, JUVIA DIED FOR U SO U DECIDED TO KILL UR BEST FRIEND ?



I thought Natsu has lost his sanity but Gray was the one who did, Natsu just wanna go and kill Zeref, he told gray to get out of the way but he just wanted to kill his best friend ? well Sorry gray fans but he's so damn stupid :) i Hope Natsu destroys him next chapter because natsu is on a whole different level from that stupid ice mage



You hate a guy that is one of the most developed and depth interesting characters in the manga, I feel sorry you for then lol.



Um kiddo, it's the fact that Juvia's dead that Gray is not in his senses, he doesn't know what he's doing, because his mind is corrupted by his magic. Juvia even claims he's breaking, and Invel foreshadows taht Gray is losing his sanity due to the excessive magic of DeS. Do you people read the manga at all? Or just come up with shitty excuses with lack of reasoning?



Natsu full on hand knows that killing Zeref will be kill himself, so it's he who is an idiot at this point.



I hope Gray pummels and beats the shit out of this stupid fire mage. and it should happen because this idiot Natsu is gonna get himself killed anyway. Not that I care since I hate Natsu to begin with lol.



Natsu is one a whole level alright. A whole level of cringe. Lol Gray Fanboy Detected, i know u say that because u think im a Natsu fan-boy ? sorry dude but im not,  xD yeah he knows he is gonna Die but it's an instinct like Invel said, all demons of zeref have that instinct of wanting to kill zeref so it's not him doing it in purpose, but at Least he doesnt attack His Friends / Best friends and trying to kill them like an idiot, yeah we know he isnt sane right now but he should at least trying to talk to Natsu or team-up against zeref since he is the one who's caused everything (demons & War) but instead he is being like , AH NATSU U WANNA KILL ZEREF WHO CAUSED EVERYTHING SINCE U R THE ONLY ONE WHO COULD KILL HIM, THEN SORRY I WANT TO KILL U BEFORE THAT SO ZEREF WILL STAY ALIVE lul

and btw do u know that Natsu is heavily holding back ? otherwise Grey would be a dead-body by now lul



More like reasonable fan of the manga detected, because unlike you I see the inner line of things that happen in this manga, why a character acts like he does, and why suddenly a character pulls a 180 degree of change. It's called looking at the bigger picture, something that a low level intellectual won'tbe able to pull off. If you're not sane, it means you can not doing anything reasonable, because your mind is fucked up, and preventing you to do the sensible thing. So him tagging team with Natsu isn't exactly someone with a sane mind would do.



Put yourself in Gray's shoes, and think for a moment. YOu had your girlfriend dead in your eyes, your mind is fucked up by your magic which Invel foreshadowed, losing every bit of sanity in you and then perceivingly when your mind is fuck, you start beliving your best friend lied about his own existence, and he feels super betrayed by it. Not to mention your emotions are all over the place. and you get the picture.

LOL Natsu isn't holding back, read the panels again. He said he isn't holding back on Gray. Both of them didn't even use their spells, Gray didn't use a single spell, a secret nor his trump card, so he obviously isn't using his full power, otherwise Natsu would be a dead body by now lul. Wait, My girlfriend ? when did juvia ever became his girlfriend ? i only saw Gray pushing her away every single time and treats her like shit, and now when she fake-died she was his girlfriend ?



Okay, so a friend of yours that u know for like 2 years dies, ah so u r gonna go and blame ur best friend who saved ur ass countless times and was by ur side in every single pinch, the one who showed the biggest love for Fairy tail and Magnolia, the one who believed in u even tho Future rogue told him u would go evil and kill frosch ? sorry but doing this only means u r a douche and retarded, he doesnt deserve Natsu's friendship



and  Natsu would be dead by now if gray was serious ? do u even read / watch fairy tail ? from the very beggining Natsu was always stronger than Gray, and even in this arc, he left him in the dust, and u just said not using spell, so going demon mode is not a spell u mean ? i cant even imagine what's gonna happen to gray if Natsu goes FDKM or Dragon Force lul





Juvia became his girlfriend, practically in Tartaros, even more it was evident of that when they were pratically living together for 6 months, with Gray evidently going to give his answer toward her feelings.



.  If you bothered to pay attention, Gray never pushed her away, he ignored her when she was fangirling to cause comedic relief moments, and when there were serious situations, he comforted her, and was close to her.  So ignoring someone who's acting stupid is the same as treating one like shit? Once again fabolous logic right there brought to you by this person, lmao.



Once again, you're dumb enough not to seem to realize, when I repeated about 5 times already, that Gray is not mentally stable right now. Meaning he doesn't know what he's doing because of his mind and heart is filled with darkness, and he's being corrupted by his magic of which Invel foreshadowed, this part which gives over your thick minded retarded head.  Right now he's not recognizing Natsu as a friend, but more as an enemy, an enemy that he feels have betrayed him because of his existence and not telling anyone about it. Not to mention, Gray's mental trauma increased with Juvia's death.  Natsu should be indirectly blamed anyway, Zeref created plenty of destruction and havoc all over the place for Natsu's growth to take place in the world, so to suggest Natsu who should not be not blamed for at all, it's evidently retarded considering the idiot didn't even bother answering any one of Gray's questions, and the matter itself would be nullified less if he bothered to due so, instead of enraging Gray even more.

If you bothered to pay attention to the individual saving ratios, it's evident that Gray has actually saved Natsu's life more than the latter is. Infact the recent moment of who saved one another was Gray, when he saved Natsu from Invel. Next time, you wanna bark, look at the facts.  The only retarded and douche is you, and your little faggy Natsu. Especially when only a retard can not understand logic thrown at him 5 or 6 times at this point



Don't be pathetically badmouthing Gray, just because he's making that douche Natsu piss his pants. More like Natsu doesn't deserve Gray's friendship.



No, no no, it's evident that YOU fool, are not reading the manga/watch the anime. Because from the start of the series, Gray and Natsu were portrayed to be equals. (Infact Gray kicked Natsu's ass when they were kids) Natsu's closest friend even confirms that.  Based on your idiotic logic, Natsu going END mode is not a spell? What's the point in going through a mode when you're not using a spell. You do realize that using magic is when you're actually trying right?  I can't even imagine how stupid your reaction will be when Gray actually pounds Natsu to the dust lol esp with his slaying advantage.
 
  • #17
Kinda pointless that Hiro made them fight mindlessly against each other.



Dem waifus gonna save the day.
 
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