Fairy Tail Chapter 491 Discussion

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  • #90
Was kind of salty about Gajeel not dying but I'm willing to accept it. If I accept beaming in Star Trek (which breaks down a person and then moves the different parts to another location) then I feel like I have to accept Gajeel not dying. Since Eileen's magic technically "beamed" everything in Fiore to a random location, I can except that it "beamed" Gajeel's broken down body into one location. Still kind of an ass pull, but it's one I can live with. Especially, since the scene of him feeling awkward will probably be hilarious if it's ever animated. Pumped as hell for the coming chapters though, I feel like the build up is almost over. We might get some serious action soon.
 
  • #91
lienleaf said:
So Tenrou Island is now fused with the Mainland? Does that mean every FT gets an extra Magic boost like in the Tenrou Island arc? That'd be cool, though unnecessary.

If anyone needs a boost, it's the Spriggans tbh.



All of them are getting one shotted left and right like flies
 
  • #92
Madara22 said:
Zera can use telepathy !!! :D

Plot can make anything happen my friend :D
 
  • #93
Oh lord. This is absolute freaking trainwreck now.



Was Gajeel dead? In Heaven? NOPE, he was just asspulled away from death by wall of text...

The zera plotline is an absolute clusterfuck. But hey another character came back from death!.

Milf Erza plotline is 100% obvious too.



Where is the threat? where is the logic? Where is common sense? Where is epicness that Tartaros arc had?

Gone.



1/5
 
  • #94
Isterio said:
frostmourn said:




Gajeel said that his body became a lump of barriers, it's implied that he was disintegrating from the very beginning.



You can't defend that lol

If this was the case it would have made no sense for him to be capable to hit Bradman with a final attack. This specifically is most likely a translation fuckup or you just missred, or simply missunderstood.

Given the context of the story everyone can deduct that Bradman was dead before he was. Furthermore because it´s magic and the terms are all made up without any clear explanation of their meaning we have to go off the existing evidence.



Every character in the world can inhale anti magic barrier particles, although it was established that they´re especially lethal against magic wielding people Laxus a character of stong constitution was capable of inhaling high loads of it, which lead to him developing cancer, while characters who may or may not have been magic wielders with worse constitution died immediately through poisoning. The thundergod tribe a group of people with mediocore constitution and magic wielders could inhale them as well without dying or permanent repercussions through the addition of medical treatment.



Meaning that the condition you´ve described was an effect of the spatial distortion, caused by Bradmans final ability who he only used after he was defeated, not the anti magic barrier particles. His ability, has a high probability of being a suicide move, as this is the only explanation, as to why he didn´t use that overpowered move to begin with. Bradmans wording actually supports this.



Given the context we had it´s similar to the move "explosion" from Pokemom. Where the user sacrifices his life in order to create an ability that "definately" kills it´s target through the spatial distortion of particles, a concept that´s debated among physicists to be possible to exist in reallife. But because this is fiction, this principle may be applied as truth, through a singular entity blessed with "magic".This is ridiculous on it´s own, mind you, but we further got an explanation, that an even more powerful enitity, who was blessed with even greater "magic", was capable of applying a spell, that utilized spatial distortion, within the whole vincinity of a country without specified size.



Given the context of the story, this would make no sense whatsoever in reallife, but if the rules Hiro Mashima established for FT are followed, it does make sense for the series.

Sorry but no. This time around he broke none of his own rules.



Simply spoken what happened was, Bradmans ability would have teleported Gajeel into the underworld, but because Irene´s magic functions as a reshuffle he instead of was teleported to a random location on the continent.



What I said was exactly what happened in the manga. See:

http://readms.com/r/fairy_tail/488/3455/5





Pokemon is like tom and jerry lol, you aren't meant to take them seriously. Death never happens except in movies in Pokemon
 
  • #96
short_review said:
For me good Fairy Tail stopped at chapter 130 so ... but since it was one of my first manga/anime I'm still trying to finish it.



I was really disapointed after the Luxus arc by the absolute lack of character development and the fact that we didn't care anymore for the main quest.



At first there was

2 very small arcs to introduce the tandem Lucy + Natsu

+ 1 arc to create the team Erza + Natsu + Lucy + Gray

then character development

for Gray : Galuna

for Lucy : Phantom Lord (introducing Gajeel, tormented but good character) + Loki small arc + Love & Lucky

for Erza : Tower of heaven

for Luxus : Battle of Fairy Tail



So at that moment I thought "ok the 4, 5 or 6 main chars have been introduced and everyone has a background it's time to move to the plot and go looking for that dragon". So I imagined Mashima would have Natsu and Lucy take their backpacks and travel Fiore and have adventures and we would discover the map of Fiore and its geography and we would be introduced to new ennemies and allies that would play a role all along the story.



But no ! From this moment Natsu completely forgot about dragons and he only did "what he was asked to do". Where is the feeling of adventure here??



For 3 consecutive arcs and half of the 4th one the main plot did not progress. That's 200 chapters that we did spend

- introducing a loli

- introducing the most annoying character of the manga : Carla

- introducing other guilds (good point here)

- resurrecting Lisanna and destroying a part of what made the Elfman / Mirajane an interesting duo

- getting rid of Mystogan's ... mystery?

- introducing a boring character : Mest

- introducing the biggest copycat ever : Not Shanks

- introducing the most bored, boring and pointless ennemy ever : Zeref

- doing the most useless timeskip ever



And suddenly Dragons coming from the celestial gate ! GUYS THERE ARE DRAGONS IN THIS STORY REMEMBER 300 CHAPTERS AGO ?!



Then we had chapter 342 : "The beginning of a new adventure", and I was like "will this story care for the plot again hopefully ?"  The village of the sun felt like "adventure" and it was cool (and I gave it really good rating) but soon enough Tartaros and ... "IGNEEL IS HERE GUY ! IGNEEL IS HERE ! ... IGNEEL IS DEAD ! ! "... so much for the main quest ... we never looked for Igneel and not only that but he doesn't even get his own arc and gets killed immediately ... who wrote this?







So the main point of this story is not to accomplish the quest introduced in chapter 1 but to defeat a bored teenager who was introduced in the Tower of heaven in volume 10.



Yeah !



ok I'm reading for fanservice



Almost agree with everything you said there.



But I think you've gotten the aim of fairy tail wrong. The anime itself is about adventure relating to the 4 MC and not finding igneel. Finding igneel was Natsu's goal, him not doing jack to achieve that is the reason why he's the worst MC in all of shounen (IMO, some actually think he's the best MC lol)



Fairy tail, on an average, was following is theme until episode 120 IMO, from GMG onwards it's pure shit (except few exceptions in Tartarus arc)



I really did enjoy first 120 episodes and found it pretty good (except few shits like lissana return, mystogan getting ruined, erza vs Azuma)
 
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