Fairy Tail Chapter 491 Discussion

Cejara said:


Well I know for sure that Erza is a broken character because he wrote her poorly in terms of plot (not character development though). I did like most of the fights on Tenrou  Island though (besides Melodi's), I just didn't like the whole Acnologia thing in which it ended out which seemed completely out of the blue and random that they were saved by the barrier at the last second.



We could sit here and discuss the entirity of the series, none of us remembers, to find out where it went wrong for everyone, individually. Let´s just conclude with, FT is a poorly written Battle Shounen, that utilizes the same tools as every other, but has way poorer pacing which leads to it´s downfall. Although it had the potential to be a phenomenal one because of it´s topnotch art and initially colorful, likeable cast of characters,

Gajeel will be super embarrassed to see Levy now.

frostmourn said:




What I said was exactly what happened in the manga. See:

http://readms.com/r/fairy_tail/488/3455/5





Pokemon is like tom and jerry lol, you aren't meant to take them seriously. Death never happens except in movies in Pokemon

And what I did was explain why you can´t blame the resent developments for breaking the rules.You may hate it for other reasons, but that´s personal.



Pokemon was just a move comparision.  Conceptual the move "explosion" and Bradmans final magic are probably the same. If you don´t like the example. It´s the same as Deidara´s final C4 where he eats his own clay to become the explosion.



It´s even compareable to the point where Sasuke used spatial distortion to avoid the attack. In this case Irene is Manda.

frostmourn said:




I have no doubt about Hiro's abilities, contradiction and etherion (rave and even fairy tail) were amazing.



I just wonder whether he meant that here since I doubt whether he's even trying in fairy tail at this point (the battles so far speak). He is probably  just tired now and wants this to get over ASAP



Doubtful, the series is his baby, he claimed that  FT was around the halfway point during chapter 340 , we have at least 100+ chapters to go from 500 onwards. His problem doesn´t lie in his creativity but his pacing. He takes too much time for buildup than decides inbetween that he wants to showcase the next plotpoint when the one he dedicated all the buildup is  only  halfway done which makes the whole setup obsolete and missleading.



This is why I said that he loves to involve Bs that doesn´t fit into the current storyline just because his mood tells him too.

The best resent example would be Brandish and her Bathtub scene. Although Brandish was foreshadowed to be a goofy character with comedic moodswings that doesn´t take her duties seriously, it was out of place. From an authors perspective it would have made more sense to place those scenes after the war arc was done or before it started. As much as I hate the fanservice chapter after the giants village arc, it was well placed. It was complete and utter filler and it´s sole contribution was Warrod used to be a FT member, but it wasn´t distracting from current developments, like a raging war. He just couldn´t fit it in the first meeting and instead put it into the war arc. It´s not that he didn´t care, but his priority was not to showcase the severity of the ongoing war, but that Brandish is a goofy character that´ll eventually become Lucy´s friend.



Given this knowledge and the development we had to this point I´m assuming that his intention is to end Zeref´s story around chapter 500 to then introduce Ank Sheram as the final villain to the story, meaning that his minions would require to be overcome first before the final encounter can happen which will conclude in a final timeskip that´ll show all the character with their children 10+ years later.



Edit: I just remembered that he used Brandish lackey to dispell Jacobs ability. I know, we all wanted to forgett about him, but he´s a prime example of Hiro putting thought into the interaction of abilities he introduces.

frostmourn said:


LMAO, I didn't like that either; would've preferred him dead as one of the most epic villains in the series (many of the events had him pulling the strings in the background). But it was acceptable to me because he at least stayed dead for 2 arcs LOL and it was said that he directed the entire power of Etherion to the sky hence saving himself from getting disintegrated (but yeah, he should've stayed dead).



I did say that I wouldn't have minded Gajeel coming back at the end of the arc. Because now, what was the point of his death anyway?







Anyways , what do you interpret from that page (just curious)? I interpret that even if gajeel wasn't taken to the underworld he still would've "eventually" died like meruem and royal guards from HxH

Edit: if that statement wasn't there, I would've accepted that comeback as legit



Sigh, I think you´ve misunderstood what happened here because of the term "magic barrier particles". In that panel he says "magic barrier particles"  a term that we´ve seen for the first time. In every other panel since the Tartaros arc they always spoke about Anti Magic particles. Rarely the term Ethernano or antiethernano was used, but at this point I´m not sure if it´s the same.



I don´t know if you´re familiar with the science fiction behind teleportation.

With that I mean "beam us up Scotty". According to the theory behind teleportation a body has to get disintegrated first (turned from mass into energy) on a atomic level then travel in the form of energy from one point in the universe to another and then reconstructed as mass again.



Meaning that Bradman turned first himself into a lump of energy (magic particles) in order to fight them without being feasibly damageable. Gajeel beat him in his Dragon Force mode (or whatever it is). Which lead to Bradman touching him while he was dissolving, therefore sharing his condition with him as a final attempt to drag him to death with him.  Gajeel would have died through teleportation by leaving out the step of reconstructing him. But because Irene intervened she reconstructed his body by mistake.



Gajeels condition has nothing to do with the poisoning through "Anti magic barrier particles", therefore it´s incomperable with Meruem who died due too radiation poisoning. It´ll probably turn out that he build up an immunity and while it´s poisonous to others to him it´s doping, because they include iron and iron is his element food.

short_review said:
So now back to what you said. you tell me that the point of Fairy Tail is the story of the guild and I think that you're right it's the goal of Hiro Mashima. But is accomplishing tasks that the master gives you that entertaining?



Wouldn't it have been more entertaining to have a main hero chasing after dragons even if the 3 or 4 other main characters were following their own agenda?



Plus if it's the story of the guild then I expect character development. Now if we look at the guild, its a lot of people. Is it really possible to care about so many people? Plus most of them are NPC with random face, we don't even know their names they are just here to say "there are people in the guild", others have a name but they have been spending their time in the building since the first arc : Droy, Jet, that telepathy guy, the two hunters ... And then there is the inner circle : Makarov, Levy, Mirajane, Gajeel, ... but all in all, all these characters get no development at all except for a few shipping. How should I care really? They could all die for it doesn't matter at all.



All in all having a story about something as big as a guild but chosing to develop only 4 of them is perfectly stupid. Imagine the adventures of Luffy, Zoro Nami and ... their 60 buddies : John 1, John 2, John 3 ... John 60. Just get rid of the 60 and keep the three main chars.



And yeah Makarov should have died on Tenrou, that would have been far more meaningfull.



You are right when you say people don't care about the random NPCs, but a good chunck of the characters have development (mostly those who are fanfavorites, and the main 4 characters obviously... minor ones a little). It is hard to try and develope this characters and give them the proper time to shine... but at the same time you do know little stuff about the minor characters from the guild (Romeo, Macao, Jet, Droy, Max, Wakaba etc..), but with a large assemble cast like this, of course you'd tend to focus more on some specific characters, and the minor characters are still treated well, now it is understandable you wouldn't care about said characters, because they're not much into the story, but that could be said about those who are in it too much as well. You would see people say they don't like Erza and they would prefer to see more of Mirajane, to give an example. So there are downs and ups with everything, for example I personally don't care about all the characters in One Piece, talking about the main crew obviously, I just don't find some of them interesting. Basically you can't make everyone happy with it, it just doesn't work...

That eye seemed to be hot, but when showed that giant Makarov, became boring. >.>

Pretty much a set up chapter.



3.1/5