Fairy Tail Chapter 491 Discussion
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- #99
Gajeel said that his body became a lump of barriers, it's implied that he was disintegrating from the very beginning.
You can't defend that lol
If this was the case it would have made no sense for him to be capable to hit Bradman with a final attack. This specifically is most likely a translation fuckup or you just missred, or simply missunderstood.
Given the context of the story everyone can deduct that Bradman was dead before he was. Furthermore because it´s magic and the terms are all made up without any clear explanation of their meaning we have to go off the existing evidence.
Every character in the world can inhale anti magic barrier particles, although it was established that they´re especially lethal against magic wielding people Laxus a character of stong constitution was capable of inhaling high loads of it, which lead to him developing cancer, while characters who may or may not have been magic wielders with worse constitution died immediately through poisoning. The thundergod tribe a group of people with mediocore constitution and magic wielders could inhale them as well without dying or permanent repercussions through the addition of medical treatment.
Meaning that the condition you´ve described was an effect of the spatial distortion, caused by Bradmans final ability who he only used after he was defeated, not the anti magic barrier particles. His ability, has a high probability of being a suicide move, as this is the only explanation, as to why he didn´t use that overpowered move to begin with. Bradmans wording actually supports this.
Given the context we had it´s similar to the move "explosion" from Pokemom. Where the user sacrifices his life in order to create an ability that "definately" kills it´s target through the spatial distortion of particles, a concept that´s debated among physicists to be possible to exist in reallife. But because this is fiction, this principle may be applied as truth, through a singular entity blessed with "magic".This is ridiculous on it´s own, mind you, but we further got an explanation, that an even more powerful enitity, who was blessed with even greater "magic", was capable of applying a spell, that utilized spatial distortion, within the whole vincinity of a country without specified size.
Given the context of the story, this would make no sense whatsoever in reallife, but if the rules Hiro Mashima established for FT are followed, it does make sense for the series.
Sorry but no. This time around he broke none of his own rules.
Simply spoken what happened was, Bradmans ability would have teleported Gajeel into the underworld, but because Irene´s magic functions as a reshuffle he instead of was teleported to a random location on the continent.
- #100
I honestly wouldn't have minded it if this didn't happen all the time. Everything as of lately is due to unbelievable convenience. Its to the point where there is no more suspension of disbelief on things such as Gajeel's anymore when they come back to life because I know something will conveniently take place and all will be well in a chapter or 3.
It´s a staple within writing. The arriving reinforcements have always to reach their destination when the Main character is in perril and about to get killed.
Replaceable or irrelevant characters don´t enjoy this luxury, this includes villains and side characters.
Every Shounen without exception uses this formula.
Can the story be continued without the character?
Y: Character can be killed off. N: He must live.
Ofc it´s always subjective to judge which character is irreplaceable for the stories conclusion and which is not. But you can assist that judgement. Through sources outside the medium, like comments the author has made about his story, or by extending earlier writing conventions the author exploited.
Aka don´t expect a comedy to turn into a drama and vice versa.
A good example of "free writing" would be the Song of Ice and Fire and the Warcraft Universe. Because neither of them have defined main characters the stories can take any direction they want. As opposed to Tolkien whose stories always require the Main cast to fullfill their purpose first before they may die, whose formula 99% of modern literature and media follow. I could go on how it can be retraced to antiquity, whose works were the inspiration for yesterdays authors, but people should know by now.
- #101
For me good Fairy Tail stopped at chapter 130 so ... but since it was one of my first manga/anime I'm still trying to finish it.
I was really disapointed after the Luxus arc by the absolute lack of character development and the fact that we didn't care anymore for the main quest.
At first there was
2 very small arcs to introduce the tandem Lucy + Natsu
+ 1 arc to create the team Erza + Natsu + Lucy + Gray
then character development
for Gray : Galuna
for Lucy : Phantom Lord (introducing Gajeel, tormented but good character) + Loki small arc + Love & Lucky
for Erza : Tower of heaven
for Luxus : Battle of Fairy Tail
So at that moment I thought "ok the 4, 5 or 6 main chars have been introduced and everyone has a background it's time to move to the plot and go looking for that dragon". So I imagined Mashima would have Natsu and Lucy take their backpacks and travel Fiore and have adventures and we would discover the map of Fiore and its geography and we would be introduced to new ennemies and allies that would play a role all along the story.
But no ! From this moment Natsu completely forgot about dragons and he only did "what he was asked to do". Where is the feeling of adventure here??
For 3 consecutive arcs and half of the 4th one the main plot did not progress. That's 200 chapters that we did spend
- introducing a loli
- introducing the most annoying character of the manga : Carla
- introducing other guilds (good point here)
- resurrecting Lisanna and destroying a part of what made the Elfman / Mirajane an interesting duo
- getting rid of Mystogan's ... mystery?
- introducing a boring character : Mest
- introducing the biggest copycat ever : Not Shanks
- introducing the most bored, boring and pointless ennemy ever : Zeref
- doing the most useless timeskip ever
And suddenly Dragons coming from the celestial gate ! GUYS THERE ARE DRAGONS IN THIS STORY REMEMBER 300 CHAPTERS AGO ?!
Then we had chapter 342 : "The beginning of a new adventure", and I was like "will this story care for the plot again hopefully ?" The village of the sun felt like "adventure" and it was cool (and I gave it really good rating) but soon enough Tartaros and ... "IGNEEL IS HERE GUY ! IGNEEL IS HERE ! ... IGNEEL IS DEAD ! ! "... so much for the main quest ... we never looked for Igneel and not only that but he doesn't even get his own arc and gets killed immediately ... who wrote this?
So the main point of this story is not to accomplish the quest introduced in chapter 1 but to defeat a bored teenager who was introduced in the Tower of heaven in volume 10.
Yeah !
ok I'm reading for fanservice
You make some good points, but Fairy Tail's story was never about Natsu finding Igneel, that was his personal goal. The story of Fairy Tail is about a group of people and their adventures. Plus many times its implied that Natsu searched for Igneel, also if you look at the arcs he can't really (talking about Natsu) search for his foster father since there's shit happening right now, he's not a 'selfish' person to just leave everyone and go look for Igneel, that's just the way he is.
After the Tower of Heaven arc, the dragons say they won't interfere with the humans and come out when they're most needed, so by that time (when you still liked it), you knew they would appear eventually, and Mashima foreshadowed it pretty well. Also after the Tower of Heaven arc, Wendy was foreshadowed too, so you knew she would come. Zeref too was mentioned a couple of times before introduced and he wasn't anything like how people described him to be.
I get your points, and some of them are understandable like Carla she's very annoying, Lisanna return was unecessary, Mystogan was cool but I personally didn't care too much about him, Gildarts... I do like him, and there's no denying his character is inspired by Shanks (design wise, tho different traits and personalities) but he was also mentioned before introduced.
The first time skip is really rubish and if Mashima killed Makarov off there, I think things would've gotten more interesting, and it would eventually lead to the current arc (I don't know how he would've introduced the Eclipse, because that's a key point in what the story is now).
For me Fairy Tail got disappointing in the GMG arc, same with many people. Tartaros was better, and now we have this arc which is about the same as GMG, average and such. I don't know I get why people dislike FT, but also get why they still love it, I'm pretty much in the middle... so yea.
- #102
Lol...and after that confession...Gajeel is embarrassed! XD
and that also activated the Zera Memory...and Summoned her back from Underworld huh... I DON'T F***ING CARE IF PEOPLE SAY THAT IS REAL ZERA!!!! I SAY THIS IS HER SOUL THAT LIVES INSIDE THE ILLUSION MAVIS MADE!!!! THIS IS REAL ZERA AND THAT IS END OF THAT!!!!!
and Complete Massacre of the Fiore Royal Guard....I and Everybody else Knew that These Guys did not seriously stand a Chance... Respect for them tough, for doing their Duty Admirably and for not running. and Meeting between Eileen and Erza...In next chapter...Caesar Mark, CAESAR MARK!!!
....and Looks like what ever happened with Erza and her caused her to spit on Parents-Childs love in what she did to Hisui is any confirmation. King is real parent tough.
Well Zera has some MAgic huh....Telepathy...
- #103
Cejara said:
Good point about Bradman because he basically did the same thing that happened to Gajeel when he dispersed himself into particles, so he should technically be back too. Nice call on that.
Gajeel was dispersed second. Bradman specifically said "I´ll take you with me". When Irene saved him by mistake she didn´t save Bradman because for him it was to late. It´s the Ultimate convenience, but that´s nothing new to media in general and especially Shounen and yes this includes SnK and HxH.
People may complain that it´s poorly paced and it was too early for him to come back, but given the circumstances the situation makes perfect sense.
Gajeel said that his body became a lump of barriers, it's implied that he was disintegrating from the very beginning.
You can't defend that lol
- #105
badlands9 said:
This chapter is actually quite interesting if i say so myself. First Gajeel is alive, second, Zera is 'revived' but temporarily, and lastly Irene finally sees Erza (or her hair to be more precised).
I have a theory that Irene is probably Erza's older sister then her mom, i mean like she seems a little to young to be her mother doesn't she? Also, if you look at the title of chapter 492 it's 'Older sister and Younger sister', so i feel like it's gonna concentrate on Erza and Irene.
As for Zera, i actually like the idea of her being 'revived' even if it's for a short time, Fairy Tail do need an extra help. But doesn't Mavis always thinks of her? She probably does remember her too, so i find it a little weird. i don't know. I also knew that Gajeel wasn't dead, i mean Hiro did say that Fairy Tail WILL have a happy ending. And i'd also like to see Levy's reaction when she sees him.
Age is not perfectly reflected by appearance. You should know that already or is Zeref not proof enough?
Zeref is immortal and doesn't age. His case is entirely different.
Acnologia almost fully absorbed dragon properties, thus he doesn't age as well (as far as we know dragons don't age )