Fairy Tail Chapter 490 Discussion

  • #98
Why is Zera even in this story? Lol what? All that for a character barely in a spin off?



1/5 chapter



And of course Gajeel wasn't going to die. Tumblr gets soo emotional when it's mind blowing they haven't caught on to Hiro's writing



This arc has been meh. And Irene is still a hamfisted plot device for Erza. And Mira once again gets cheated out of the story. This arc stopped being good since 465
 
  • #99
Did u noticed.....ZERA, ZEREF = TWINS (and UR??)

Zeraf, Natsu= bros, => Zera Natsu = brother and sister,

Zera= origin, Natsu = E.N.D.
 
  • #100
TheUltimateOne said:
Jarjaxle said:
PSxTWO said:
MirajaneDreyar said:
You guys do realise that Gajeel is still in the underworld, right? And Zera is still kinda dead. So they're actually meeting in the underworld and Zera will possibly help Gajeel to return to the living realm.

Yes I did thought of that. Others think that he's already alive because he showed up



Hmm...then I am OK with this if this is going to be confirmed in next chapter.



frostmourn said:
Fai said:
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH



And here people were CONVINCED Gajeel would stay dead.

And here people were convinced that Milf Erza would actually do something of consequence.

And here people were CONVINCED that Zera was dead. And now we have a literal asspull of her appearing her for no reason on top of Gajeel randomly being alive.



Hooo boy I can't believe how trashy this got.

I expected nothing and I was still disappointed.



End this already, Mashima. FT is beyond saving now.  Just get on with writing a new manga, which hopefully will be on level of Rave or at least FT Tartaros.



Aiko_Hiroshi said:
I was honestly about to rage at Gajeel being completely fine....then I saw....Zera. Okay Mashima, you have me extremely interested in what the hell is about to happen.



Fairy Heart is Zera and MAvis nakama power that formed in them having been friends for three seconds! :^)



Lol, of course mashima won't end this soon. Gotta milk money outta it right??



No matter how shitty it gets, there will always be millions of shipper girls and 14 year old thirsty kids who would still read this for pairings and fanservice, and claim it's the best manga of all time.



For eg, just see myanimelist ratings, more than 75% people put 5/5 or 4/5 no matter how shitty a chapter gets.



I would still read this to it ends, but this is faaar from my fav manga that it used to be.



Quick question...Why the **** are you reading this if you hate this and think it as trash? seriously? I want honest answer not trying to bash or anything (>_<)



I think he just wants to read this manga to the end considering it was his first anime/manga and he was a fan of FT. (taken from his previous posts)



Ty for that mate, glad that you understand.
 
  • #101
Irene changed the whole landscape & moved everyone so that Zeref could get closer to Mavis.

This is not looking good for Mavis.

Gajeel meeting Zera. Lets see how she is going to help him.
 
  • #102
Monad said:
frostmourn said:
Jarjaxle said:
PSxTWO said:
MirajaneDreyar said:
You guys do realise that Gajeel is still in the underworld, right? And Zera is still kinda dead. So they're actually meeting in the underworld and Zera will possibly help Gajeel to return to the living realm.

Yes I did thought of that. Others think that he's already alive because he showed up



Hmm...then I am OK with this if this is going to be confirmed in next chapter.



frostmourn said:
Fai said:
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH



And here people were CONVINCED Gajeel would stay dead.

And here people were convinced that Milf Erza would actually do something of consequence.

And here people were CONVINCED that Zera was dead. And now we have a literal asspull of her appearing her for no reason on top of Gajeel randomly being alive.



Hooo boy I can't believe how trashy this got.

I expected nothing and I was still disappointed.



End this already, Mashima. FT is beyond saving now.  Just get on with writing a new manga, which hopefully will be on level of Rave or at least FT Tartaros.



Aiko_Hiroshi said:
I was honestly about to rage at Gajeel being completely fine....then I saw....Zera. Okay Mashima, you have me extremely interested in what the hell is about to happen.



Fairy Heart is Zera and MAvis nakama power that formed in them having been friends for three seconds! :^)



Lol, of course mashima won't end this soon. Gotta milk money outta it right??



No matter how shitty it gets, there will always be millions of shipper girls and 14 year old thirsty kids who would still read this for pairings and fanservice, and claim it's the best manga of all time.



For eg, just see myanimelist ratings, more than 75% people put 5/5 or 4/5 no matter how shitty a chapter gets.



I would still read this to it ends, but this is faaar from my fav manga that it used to be.



Quick question...Why the **** are you reading this if you hate this and think it as trash? seriously? I want honest answer not trying to bash or anything (>_<)



My reasons for reading this:



1.) I have faith that Hiro can do better. After GMG, he did a much better arc Tartarus (not as great as people say it is, but was definitively good IMO)



2.) Fairy tail is my first anime (apart from Dbz, naruto and Pokemon which I watched when I was 10), it was the anime that got me into the world of manga and anime 5 years back, when I was 15. And no matter what others say, the first 120 episodes were epic IMO (actually enjoyed them for the most part, except for Natsu and Lucy lol), and the first 50 episodes were the best in any shounen by far(my opinion, don't bash)



3.) Because of reason 2, I have a personal attachment to fairy tail. I might seem as a hater, but what I actually want is for this manga to get better cause I legit care for it instead of accepting it as how it is, cause it's worse than GMG now TBH.







My problems with fairy tail now:



1.) Villains treated like utter shit. Hyped up to fail horrendously - Bradman killed by 3 regular punches after 25+ chapters of hype, are you kidding me? Actually all Spriggans except Serena (and then died -_-) and August were disappointing.



2.) Wasting God Serena and other GOI. They were hyped for more than 150 chapters and then had an off screen fight. At least it made Serena look epic, but wait, then he got one shotted to a character that needs no more hype.



3.) Characters who kept me to the series and were my favs were shitted on - Erza (used to be the best,she became......), Laxus, Jellal, lissana. I mean they really got their characters destroyed. Right now I only like Gray and Gajeel (not anymore if he's back) in the protagonist side.



4.) Plot holes on chapter 465. People say it's awesome cause of revelations and Zeref appearing. But it made the one good arc of fairy tail pointless, made Atlas flames look like a complete idiot and shitted on all the emotions showed by Mard Do you seriously think he was lying? The guy showed legit emotions for END as if he was a close friend, got angry when someone talked shit about END, almost cried in the end cause he failed to resurrect END and was ready to risk his life to resurrect him. And now you say they were lies? BS. To me is seemed as if mashima really planned on END being all that, then chickened out later.





I swear this is the worst arc of the manga. I would still read fairy tail, but I hate hiro for making an arc like this with the highest potential a shit.. I know he can do better, but he doesn't want to. He shits on his own manga and disrespects the sanity of his readers



All this anger and anguish you constantly show is utterly pointless.

I really do not get people like you or others complaining about fan service moments etc.



Even when i feel the direction Mashima takes is bad for story telling purposes i still have fun reading Fairy Tail because i decided what to expect from it.

After reading a little i concluded that is a manga with nice art and nice looking girls that show nice fanservice and some action sequences and fun designed villains as to not get bored and fun comedy moments.

Example everyone was raging about the pantie mention of that woman a few chapters back and how it made the situation look less serious and i was enjoying that moment as one of those random comedy snaps.



If you expect serious storytelling or even decent storytelling from Fairy Tail then i just can't get how diluted you are.

And don't start with that "But that arc was kind of good and i want other arcs to be more like..." BUUUUUUULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is because of these fucking delusion that we get so much butthurt 490 chapter in.

NO fucking arc was good when it comes to story elements. It was always some hyped villains that the only good thing about them was design and some ass-pulls fights and not much interesting connected story line but elements thrown left and right for the hell of it and so on and Mashima then pulling something of his ass as to make everything make sense etc.

The guy is an mediocre to bad story teller that just writes a young teen manga with fanservice for such teen and is continuing because he gets a decent pay check from it and he probably has fun just designing it.



Now if you all stop over analyzing the story and characters and all that and instead of hating the elements that actually making it deserve reading like comedy moments and fanservice and stupid pointless action and actually read it for those then you might just have fun reading a Fairy Tail chapter every week instead of frustration.



Fairy tail legit had good story telling for first 50 episodes and decent to 120 episodes with minimal fanservice and romance. I donno wtf you've been watching till now. Jellal was pulling the strings for many events till episode 42, played really important roles in Galina island. Laxus's rebellion was foreshadowed too, Ultear's betrayal leading/foreshadowing tenrou arc etc. It had legit good story telling, of you didn't like them I don't know how you got into fairy tail in the first place.



And nope, fanservice and romance kicked in later only. In the beginning, only Natsu-lissana and Jellal-Erza romance were there that too in minimal amounts. Fanservice was no where as prominent as now.



Read rave, he has decent story telling ability. Fairy tail first season (50) also had good story telling.



Fights actually made at least little sense in the past and were MUCH better than now.
 
  • #103
MirajaneDreyar said:
You guys do realise that Gajeel is still in the underworld, right? And Zera is still kinda dead. So they're actually meeting in the underworld and Zera will possibly help Gajeel to return to the living realm.

Yes I did thought of that. Others think that he's already alive because he showed up
 
  • #104
frostmourn said:
Darklight0303 said:
frostmourn said:
Jarjaxle said:
PSxTWO said:
MirajaneDreyar said:
You guys do realise that Gajeel is still in the underworld, right? And Zera is still kinda dead. So they're actually meeting in the underworld and Zera will possibly help Gajeel to return to the living realm.

Yes I did thought of that. Others think that he's already alive because he showed up



Hmm...then I am OK with this if this is going to be confirmed in next chapter.



frostmourn said:
Fai said:
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH



And here people were CONVINCED Gajeel would stay dead.

And here people were convinced that Milf Erza would actually do something of consequence.

And here people were CONVINCED that Zera was dead. And now we have a literal asspull of her appearing her for no reason on top of Gajeel randomly being alive.



Hooo boy I can't believe how trashy this got.

I expected nothing and I was still disappointed.



End this already, Mashima. FT is beyond saving now.  Just get on with writing a new manga, which hopefully will be on level of Rave or at least FT Tartaros.



Aiko_Hiroshi said:
I was honestly about to rage at Gajeel being completely fine....then I saw....Zera. Okay Mashima, you have me extremely interested in what the hell is about to happen.



Fairy Heart is Zera and MAvis nakama power that formed in them having been friends for three seconds! :^)



Lol, of course mashima won't end this soon. Gotta milk money outta it right??



No matter how shitty it gets, there will always be millions of shipper girls and 14 year old thirsty kids who would still read this for pairings and fanservice, and claim it's the best manga of all time.



For eg, just see myanimelist ratings, more than 75% people put 5/5 or 4/5 no matter how shitty a chapter gets.



I would still read this to it ends, but this is faaar from my fav manga that it used to be.



Quick question...Why the **** are you reading this if you hate this and think it as trash? seriously? I want honest answer not trying to bash or anything (>_<)



My reasons for reading this:



1.) I have faith that Hiro can do better. After GMG, he did a much better arc Tartarus (not as great as people say it is, but was definitively good IMO)



2.) Fairy tail is my first anime (apart from Dbz, naruto and Pokemon which I watched when I was 10), it was the anime that got me into the world of manga and anime 5 years back, when I was 15. And no matter what others say, the first 120 episodes were epic IMO (actually enjoyed them for the most part, except for Natsu and Lucy lol), and the first 50 episodes were the best in any shounen by far(my opinion, don't bash)



3.) Because of reason 2, I have a personal attachment to fairy tail. I might seem as a hater, but what I actually want is for this manga to get better cause I legit care for it instead of accepting it as how it is, cause it's worse than GMG now TBH.







My problems with fairy tail now:



1.) Villains treated like utter shit. Hyped up to fail horrendously - Bradman killed by 3 regular punches after 25+ chapters of hype, are you kidding me? Actually all Spriggans except Serena (and then died -_-) and August were disappointing.



2.) Wasting God Serena and other GOI. They were hyped for more than 150 chapters and then had an off screen fight. At least it made Serena look epic, but wait, then he got one shotted to a character that needs no more hype.



3.) Characters who kept me to the series and were my favs were shitted on - Erza (used to be the best,she became......), Laxus, Jellal, lissana. I mean they really got their characters destroyed. Right now I only like Gray and Gajeel (not anymore if he's back) in the protagonist side.



4.) Plot holes on chapter 465. People say it's awesome cause of revelations and Zeref appearing. But it made the one good arc of fairy tail pointless, made Atlas flames look like a complete idiot and shitted on all the emotions showed by Mard Do you seriously think he was lying? The guy showed legit emotions for END as if he was a close friend, got angry when someone talked shit about END, almost cried in the end cause he failed to resurrect END and was ready to risk his life to resurrect him. And now you say they were lies? BS. To me is seemed as if mashima really planned on END being all that, then chickened out later.





I swear this is the worst arc of the manga. I would still read fairy tail, but I hate hiro for making an arc like this with the highest potential a shit.. I know he can do better, but he doesn't want to. He shits on his own manga and disrespects the sanity of his readers



Lisanna had her character destroyed? How? she has been consistently useless and hostage fodder every step of the way.



She was an amazing background character before she got revived. Natsu's and her past was sad IMO, gave development to Natsu and was basically a ghost of his past- girl he loved but failed to protect.



All that changed after she came back.



Any "normal" mind would have rekindled their relationship after that, but no, after lissana have a huge hug to Natsu, they never even talked or met. She got terribly sidelined and Natsu treats her like fucking Vijeeter.



I know Hiro wants Nalu, but Nalu makes zero sense with lissana around. He should never have bought her back in the first place.



Now she's just a canon fodder, sidelined and useless 😠



Shame on Hiro for doing that😠



"She was an amazing background character" lol no she wasn't. She was a plot device for Natsu's character. Your first part of your comment is pretty much her being a link to Natsu's past meaning it's all about him and her being a catalyst which is what she was. A plot device with no character



And what's this about her past? We know next to nothing about Lisanna's character. Everything about her is tied to Natsu. And quit with the "Natsu loved her" crap. They were friends nothing more. If there was a crush it was completely one sided. There's nothing to compare when it comes to Natsu and Lucy. They have the better chemistry and development as they should because it was planned.



There was never a Natsu and Lisanna. Lisanna herself never had a character arc so calling her an "amazing background character" is



1) False

2) hilarious



Her creation was to die to give development to Natsu and the Strauss siblings. Hell look at Yukino and how friendly she and Mirajane are. She also strikes a close resemblance to Lisanna. Goes to show if Lisanna wasn't alive the concept of Mira being closer to Yukino as a sister figure would strike true.



Lisanna is in the background because she wasn't supposed to be alive in the first place
 
  • #105
Oh well, Fairy tail being fairy tail with that fan service and Gajeel return, even though I thought he would Acnologia at first. The last page was unexpected .
 
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