Fairy Tail Chapter 490 Discussion
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I donno what you've been watching, but fairy tail had good story telling and good foreshadowing of events back then. It had livable characters (erza, even though now she's trash), great villains (Jellal, to a certain extend Laxus) and great background characters who gave a lot of developments to our MC (lissana, Ul, Jellal)
Tower of heaven was foreshadowed in Galuna arc. That arc also have immense development to Grey.
Laxus's rebellion was foreshadowed in phantom arc and before too.
Ultear's betrayal lead to tenrou arc. Grimoire heart was foreshadowed there.
Tower of heaven indeed did have a good climax, it gave the ultimate development for Erza. Till then she had always been scared of Jellal and the tower, which caused her to become reserved and arrogant to others to hide them. She finally overcame the ghost (Jellal) that that mentally tortured her for 8 years. That was an excellent conclusion for the arc for me.
The above mentioned are all definitely elements of good story telling and foreshadowing IMO.
There is a reason why people loved fairy tail in the beginning. And remember that those were the times without fanservice and all related crap. Why would anyone get into fairy tail then? You already have your answer now.
If you think that fairy tail was crap from the beginning, then i wonder how you got into the series, since it didn't have fanservice back then.
Again with the fanservice, it was always there, but it was contained and not missplaced like it is now, fanservice is not a bad thing, when used right.
I agree on the foreshadowing, worth mentioning is Tartaros too, it was mentioned in the beginning of Oracion Seis (if I remember correctly), and we get them almost 300 chapters later. Also the parent dragons, and when they would appear, Natsu and Zeref's connection etc.
Past arcs were nice, but the fights always followed the same formula (few arcs are the exception like Galuna, Edolas, Tenrou and to some extend GMG, where the big boss isn't defeated by the MC alone). The fights are pretty much similar to what we got in the beginning, maybe a bit more inconsistent now, the constant missplace fanservice is what changed since the early days of Fairy Tail.
GMG much like this arc, are probably one of Fairy Tail's weakest arcs, sure there are some good moments here and there, but overall they're average/bad arcs. Tho that doesn't make a series bad only because two arcs were weak.
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Overall pretty decent chapter.
- #87
Jarjaxle said:
PSxTWO said:
MirajaneDreyar said:
You guys do realise that Gajeel is still in the underworld, right? And Zera is still kinda dead. So they're actually meeting in the underworld and Zera will possibly help Gajeel to return to the living realm.
Yes I did thought of that. Others think that he's already alive because he showed up
Hmm...then I am OK with this if this is going to be confirmed in next chapter.
frostmourn said:
Fai said:
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
And here people were CONVINCED Gajeel would stay dead.
And here people were convinced that Milf Erza would actually do something of consequence.
And here people were CONVINCED that Zera was dead. And now we have a literal asspull of her appearing her for no reason on top of Gajeel randomly being alive.
Hooo boy I can't believe how trashy this got.
I expected nothing and I was still disappointed.
End this already, Mashima. FT is beyond saving now. Just get on with writing a new manga, which hopefully will be on level of Rave or at least FT Tartaros.
Aiko_Hiroshi said:
I was honestly about to rage at Gajeel being completely fine....then I saw....Zera. Okay Mashima, you have me extremely interested in what the hell is about to happen.
Fairy Heart is Zera and MAvis nakama power that formed in them having been friends for three seconds! :^)
Lol, of course mashima won't end this soon. Gotta milk money outta it right??
No matter how shitty it gets, there will always be millions of shipper girls and 14 year old thirsty kids who would still read this for pairings and fanservice, and claim it's the best manga of all time.
For eg, just see myanimelist ratings, more than 75% people put 5/5 or 4/5 no matter how shitty a chapter gets.
I would still read this to it ends, but this is faaar from my fav manga that it used to be.
Quick question...Why the **** are you reading this if you hate this and think it as trash? seriously? I want honest answer not trying to bash or anything (>_<)
My reasons for reading this:
1.) I have faith that Hiro can do better. After GMG, he did a much better arc Tartarus (not as great as people say it is, but was definitively good IMO)
2.) Fairy tail is my first anime (apart from Dbz, naruto and Pokemon which I watched when I was 10), it was the anime that got me into the world of manga and anime 5 years back, when I was 15. And no matter what others say, the first 120 episodes were epic IMO (actually enjoyed them for the most part, except for Natsu and Lucy lol), and the first 50 episodes were the best in any shounen by far(my opinion, don't bash)
3.) Because of reason 2, I have a personal attachment to fairy tail. I might seem as a hater, but what I actually want is for this manga to get better cause I legit care for it instead of accepting it as how it is, cause it's worse than GMG now TBH.
My problems with fairy tail now:
1.) Villains treated like utter shit. Hyped up to fail horrendously - Bradman killed by 3 regular punches after 25+ chapters of hype, are you kidding me? Actually all Spriggans except Serena (and then died -_-) and August were disappointing.
2.) Wasting God Serena and other GOI. They were hyped for more than 150 chapters and then had an off screen fight. At least it made Serena look epic, but wait, then he got one shotted to a character that needs no more hype.
3.) Characters who kept me to the series and were my favs were shitted on - Erza (used to be the best,she became......), Laxus, Jellal, lissana. I mean they really got their characters destroyed. Right now I only like Gray and Gajeel (not anymore if he's back) in the protagonist side.
4.) Plot holes on chapter 465. People say it's awesome cause of revelations and Zeref appearing. But it made the one good arc of fairy tail pointless, made Atlas flames look like a complete idiot and shitted on all the emotions showed by Mard Do you seriously think he was lying? The guy showed legit emotions for END as if he was a close friend, got angry when someone talked shit about END, almost cried in the end cause he failed to resurrect END and was ready to risk his life to resurrect him. And now you say they were lies? BS. To me is seemed as if mashima really planned on END being all that, then chickened out later.
I swear this is the worst arc of the manga. I would still read fairy tail, but I hate hiro for making an arc like this with the highest potential a shit.. I know he can do better, but he doesn't want to. He shits on his own manga and disrespects the sanity of his readers
All this anger and anguish you constantly show is utterly pointless.
I really do not get people like you or others complaining about fan service moments etc.
Even when i feel the direction Mashima takes is bad for story telling purposes i still have fun reading Fairy Tail because i decided what to expect from it.
After reading a little i concluded that is a manga with nice art and nice looking girls that show nice fanservice and some action sequences and fun designed villains as to not get bored and fun comedy moments.
Example everyone was raging about the pantie mention of that woman a few chapters back and how it made the situation look less serious and i was enjoying that moment as one of those random comedy snaps.
If you expect serious storytelling or even decent storytelling from Fairy Tail then i just can't get how diluted you are.
And don't start with that "But that arc was kind of good and i want other arcs to be more like..." BUUUUUUULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is because of these fucking delusion that we get so much butthurt 490 chapter in.
NO fucking arc was good when it comes to story elements. It was always some hyped villains that the only good thing about them was design and some ass-pulls fights and not much interesting connected story line but elements thrown left and right for the hell of it and so on and Mashima then pulling something of his ass as to make everything make sense etc.
The guy is an mediocre to bad story teller that just writes a young teen manga with fanservice for such teen and is continuing because he gets a decent pay check from it and he probably has fun just designing it.
Now if you all stop over analyzing the story and characters and all that and instead of hating the elements that actually making it deserve reading like comedy moments and fanservice and stupid pointless action and actually read it for those then you might just have fun reading a Fairy Tail chapter every week instead of frustration.
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This is exactly how I feel. It almost seems like a mish mosh of content from different games, anime, and manga that he has read recently (before certain chapters he writes) then goes "Wow that is really cool, let me find a way to add this in somehow" without too much forethought too it. I always felt this way, I am glad someone else sees it too xD.
Also, I think Gajeel and Zera are inside fairy heart. Of course Gajeel is probably going to find a way to go back to being alive (rolls eyes).
Many mangaka do this, but the good ones decide what content makes sense to incorperate into the story and when to put it in. Mashima sees it and puts it in, at least that´s the impression I got.
It´s unlikely that Gajeel is within Mavis heart or in any dimension for that matter, because the landscape around him looks the same as the landscape in every other panel. It´s likelier that he survived because it was space distortion magic that was about to kill him, which was overwritten by the space distortion magic of Irene.