Fairy Tail Chapter 468 Discussion

Darklight0303 said:
AllenNoah said:
ExtraCheeky said:
Now she's... this? Literally ever since the Lucy and Brandish plot line initiated, her character is dropping bit by bit. She's slowly losing her original charm. The Spriggan 12 are absolute trash and didn't live up to their name. Natsu is being dumb as per usual. This is a fucking war yet it feels like no one is dying. The atmosphere feels like every single other arc.

I think that's the issue I have with this "war" compared to the Tartaros Arc.  There's a distinct lack of tension and suspense here.  I mean, last chapter Badd shot Beth from Mermaid Heel dead on with a rocket, and no one even entertains the possibility of her or the nameless fodder that were also hit being dead.  Not to mention we've had three Spriggans lose already and not a single one has actually achieved anything this war.



I'll say what I said after they fended off the first wave: When you have a background character shout "What now, Zeref?" and get no repercussions for it I can't help but feel something is wrong.



Three spriggans? ARe you seriously considering Wahl's puppet as a spriggan? The only one who was actually defeated and even that is not fully certain, he might come back, is Ajeel



Brandish took a bath, got knocked out, strangled, turned into Lucy's pet doggy.

Ajeel got teamrocketed by "Because She's Erza"

Wahl's main ability got rekt by fucking Ichiya....

Another spriggan is too busy cutting clothes off people instead of doing anything that actually matters.



Now let me remind you that each of those people are supposed to rival ten wizard saints in power....



Yet, I am sorry but so far they feel more like "filler enemy guild of the week" moments in the anime adaptation than a genuine threat. Especially after how efficient and ruthless Tartaros was.  By this far into Tartaros, we already had people like Jackal blowing up the council and destroying things, etc, laxus down, Mira and Erza kidnapped, Erza tortured, etc.



Magnolia's stills standing, nothing on note has happened, yet brandish already got humiliated and turned into a joke and Lucy already lost her entire plot(should have guessed that when Lucy's "major fight" ended up being a bath and then knocking brandish out with fucking cana), not to mention her character development("let's free the person who can destroy islands and hates my guts because we took a bath!!~ Hi Aquarius!")



Dare I say, this feels no different from Avatar "arc"

Darklight0303 said:
Fai said:
Darklight0303 said:


Wahl  can always just make the cannon again and fire another shot and then the guild would be vaporized. But he's busy fighting in Hargeon right now.



that kind of describes the problem with this arc.



The so called "strongest wizards of the world" COULD be causing actual damage and showing why this is a war, but majority of them just end up fucking around or even worse, barking like dogs(yes this whole trainwreck with brandish makes it incredibly  hard to take this arc seriously)



It would be "meh" if we did not have Tartaros arc where a far less powerful force actually managed to make a lot more impact than a whole continent so far.



Tartaros didn't nuke Bosco off the face of the map.



Dimaria isn't messing up and Wahl has yet to be genuinely threatened by anyone. Then there's the guy Yukino met with who has been killing her guildies left and right apparently. You are jumping to conclusions before this arc has even started in earnest.



Brandish became an uncertainty the moment she started going wobbly lipped over a destroyed stand. Doesn't matter how cool she acted after that, it was her true character at the core.

They did nuke Fairy Tail/Magnolia itself however, which is more important than a city that we've never seen and was only mentioned once.  And the only reason that didn't work is because Cana met Sho offpanel and he said "Wanna see a magic trick?"

Fai said:
He will gain infinite magic when Lucy confesses her love for him :^)

Well there is Fairy Heart for a reason. Jesus Mashima, why?

It doesn't bother me much that Aquarius lived because it makes sense with the general mechanics of summoning stuff, but how it was presented seemed like she died that's why I understand people being disappointed.



The Layla payoff was underwhelming. It could've been presented better. To think that all this time, the celestial summons knew of this great mystery was just disappointing, and to why the celestials didn't even bother telling Lucy was just blarg. So where does Lucy's story go from here?

Zinzoo said:
Mashima... He can't even break a fucking key :/

Meh i'm wondering what happened to Natsu, meybe when Igneel SSJ power burned out Natsu's life energy was shorten or something like that



I really hope that state is the beginning of him dragonizing. I can't see how else he could get a power-up strong enough to make him viable in a fight against Zeref/Acnologia/The stronger spriggans.

ExtraCheeky said:
Holy fuck. Mashima what have you done to Brandish?



What do you mean?





She was the complete enigma of this arc. Badass. Cool, calm, collective. Fearsome. Intimidating. Laid back.



Really? She seemed like a total snobby bitch to me.





She's the reason why I'm still reading this manga. She's the reason why absolutely everyone here was so hyped for this arc at the beginning, when the Spriggan 12 was first introduced.



Everyone? Speak for yourself mate. She was my 12th most interesting among the spriggans. Hell I'm much more interested in the two newest additions one being the deathbringer and the one that just doesn't give a fuck. Not to mention Wahl is a total badass firing canon and missiles from kilos afar. And the wizard that knows everything??? And the X-god of ishval? And the sword-chick?





Now she's... this? Literally ever since the Lucy and Brandish plot line initiated, her character is dropping bit by bit. She's slowly losing her original charm.

I'll aggree on this one.





The Spriggan 12 are absolute trash and didn't live up to their name.

How are they trash when only one of them has been defeated so far and 2 of them are soloing the whole of Lamia Scale and Mermaid Heel?





Natsu is being dumb as per usual.

By being half-dead?





This is a fucking war yet it feels like no one is dying. The atmosphere feels like every single other arc.



Aggreed on the first but not on the 2nd. Zeref's revelation alone made this different.





Where are my Tower of Heaven arcs? Tartaros arcs? Possibly Edolas arcs? A shame, really.

Right where you left them.

Arround

Ch.60, ch.370. ch. 160. Hope that helps.

Fai said:




Even Grand Magic Games did not feel this awful.



lol Let's not get crazy here, I know this arc hasn't been that great so far but GMG was a special type of awful that can't be beat....Avatar came close though.



So, I honestly have nothing to say about this chapter....everything was kinda predictable, even Zoldio killing Brandish's mother. I'm just relieved Aquarius isn't back permanently.

Does anyone else find Brandish being reverted a little too soon and forced by the way? Like, I feel like there was really no reason for her to be reverted to the good guy side. Yeah sure, the whole thing was a misunderstanding but....I don't know, I just would've preferred them keep her as some sort of rival to Lucy.

Two Spriggans buried, ten to go.



Also, I'm sure Hiro was hoping we'd be two distracted by the thought of a bikini-clad woman on all fours acting like a dog to notice, but isn't the implication here that this is how Aquarius treated a...what, ten year old child this way?  No wonder she treated Marin like dogshit.  Also what the fuck is your problem, Aquarius?  With Lucy it kinda made sense since she saw her a a sort of Replacement Scrappy for Layla, but what was her beef with Brandish, who she apparently treated even worse?  I kinda wish we get another Layla flashback so we could see what their relationship was like.