Vampire Knight Chapter 89 Discussion

Here is the ending that I will be happy with:



Akatsuki x Ruka, Shiki x Rima, Zero x Happiness



If Kaname x Yuki happens, I don't care. I'm a Zero fan and I believe that Yuki has turned into a selfish, manipulating idiot. (Note that I said "has turned". I used to like Yuki's character so this is quite a disappointment for me.) She had no right to mess with Zero's feelings. If she was planning on erasing his memories in the first place, she shouldn't have let him kiss her. Letting him kiss her just gave him needless hope.



I also don't care if Kaname or Yuki or both die. To me, that would be a good riddance. However, if Yuki doesn't die and wants to go back to Zero, there is only one way that can work out. Yuki needs to back out before anything else happens with Kaname.



Sure, they are shown to be in bed together but we don't know for sure yet what EXACTLY has happened. If they really did do it, I hope that Zero lives in blissful ignorance but if he remembers I hope that he will shoot her. If Yuki and Kaname DIDN'T do it, then fine, she can go back to Zero. But even if she goes back to Zero, I'm hoping that he doesn't remember her. I want Yuki to work for something she threw away, I want to see her make Zero fall in love with her all over again.

Polychronicon said:


It'd be overly sad if it ends with Zero being alone again.



I'm torn on this as I want Zero to have a happy ending but not sure if Yuuki is worthy of him anymore. She has constantly ignored his caring and his affections toward her and now she's run off and slept with Kaname after stealing what she had no right to steal. If anything I wish she'd revert back to her human self with the memories she had at that time as that was her best time.





Narutowolf77 said:
Getting too long so snipped it.



1) So, killing purebloods is equal to giving someone a gift? Scheming to have the events surrounding Zero's past happen is a gift? Treating everyone as just a pawn is a gift? Zero has never killed anyone, never schemed anything, nor never treated anyone as a pawn yet he's shown his loyalty and care for Yuuki. Seriously have you and I been reading a different manga? From the beginning he's been acting dead inside and even in 89 is asking if the furnace is ready for him to jump into it.



2) Again if she does think its a lie, without anyone saying it was is obvious her obsession yet again kicking in. She has never truly stood up to him without caving later, even in that event she still couldn't kill him.



3) The idolizing/obsession is in that anything he does is forgivable in her eyes or doesn't have any impact on her feelings toward him. He's always easily forgiven and what exactly has Zero done on the same level as Kaname? He has never pulled the trigger and this is further example of his treating her as an equal rather than coddling her.



4) Just a chapter ago she was remembering the human Yuuki's feelings towards Zero and saying how Kaname should essentially be stopped. She all of a sudden forgets everything he's done, all her feeling for Zero and runs, yet again, back to Kaname rather than trying to figure out her feelings she sleeps with Kaname.



5) If she is in love with both then I don't care how you try to romanticize it she's not dedicated to him alone. She voided that 'engagement' the moment she stopped Zero from killing himself and instead allowed him to drink her blood. People age and their feelings change so don't bother with the "they've been engaged since they were kids" b.s. as from Zero's perspective he grew up with her.



6) Another example of her stupidity =.= She should accept getting her humanity back and get off of her obsession instead maturing herself. And no not immediately rushing to Zero but instead staying by herself and figuring out what she feels.



7) So instead your friend should take advantage of your state and sleep with you? Sorry to me this is the opposite of romance. Come to me with a clear head and tell me you care for me then we'll go from there. Again he should stand aside and let her live her life while shielding her from danger that can't be avoided, like a knight and like I view Zero.



8) This isn't a form of shipping glasses being on its a matter of fact. Kaname was killing purebloods and Yuuki was going to 'stop him' while she was growing closer to Zero, enough to kiss him. Now all of a sudden Kaname wasn't killing x,y, and z and is doing the right thing and Yuuki has no resistance to it and just goes into his arms after taking Zero's memories. She was going back to her human memories and starting to care for Zero now she's sleeping with Kaname. This is just too much in too short of a time and makes Yuuki look insane or obsessive. The story should have continued as it was and had her confront Kaname, then she could have chosen.

Orulyon said:


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                        ok, so like everyone knows already, the highlight of this chapter was the sex scene between Kaname/Yuuki.

Im shipping Zero with anyone. Anyone will do but Yuuki. Im rooting for Kaito x Zero actually, but I dont mind Yori or Maria

Congrats Yume shippers and from the bottom of my heart with all the honesty, Im truly wishing that Yuuki stays with Kaname forever (no, Im not being sarcastic) and truly wishing that Zero never remembers her face again.



Zeki shippers? Are you still there? Leave that ship please, you are disrespecting Zero by shipping it with a girl that does not deserve him. She loves Kaname the most, hence, Zero deserves someone who can love him wholeheartedly. IMO.



And well, everyone wants to die in this manga. jeezz.

true the fact that she removed his memories so that he wont be able to stop him proves that

Orulyon said:


Ive been reading this manga until now for the very reason of Zero being there.



I'm the other way around: Kaname is the only saving grace in the manga for me and the reason why I'm still slightly interested in it even though the storyline is a complete wreck XD



I don't mean to add insult to injury, but I'm surprised that Zeki fans had been keeping their hopes up about this pairing all these years. It was obvious that the manga was heading the Kaname/Yuuki route the moment she regained her memories and decided to leave the academy with him early on. And even before that, the manga had been pro Kaname/Yuuki with Zero getting the short end of the stick. Also, there's the artwork thing: Matsuri did more Kaname/Yuuki artwork than Zeki, which was hinting at her pairing preference. Overall, Kaname and Yuuki ending up together makes much more sense according to what happened so far and would've hurt the already wrecked storyline even more if she out of the blue went for Zero. That's my opinion.



As for Zero, I think Matsuri should've ended the love-triangle halfway through and established a new romantic interest for him. I understand that leaving no doubt early on that this will be a Kaname/Yuuki will result in losing a lot of readers in the west where Zero is more popular than Kaname, but at least would've made the the readers feel less cheated by the end of it.

Arurie said:
Did... Yuuki just sleep with Kaname...?

I'm going to be sick. I'm done with this manga.

Stupid girl.

YES! YES GOD IT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID...

I HATE YUUKI SHE'S A SLUT SLUT SLUT...

And besides, what she did was really selfish. It's like, we all know that she knows that she was the reason for Zero to keep living and she did this thing... Jeez, IMO :(

ragingx said:
Zero I dunno since Hino seems to love torture him



Why Hino?

Why so mean to Zero...

Started as great, became average, and gone to bad. I didn't began to hate Yuuki in the first chapters of the manga but she became the worst female protagonist for me in a manga. I really want to drop the manga a long time ago if not for Zero. I did started at ZeKi fanatic and still hoping that they could still be together until the end but ~ that chapter where Yuki erased Zero's memories just shatter my last hope for them. Yuuki gave in so fast with Kaname so let them die together. But we knew Zero will be sad. We knew his memories of Yuuki will return and how he loved a pureblood vampire. Damn it. Oh well. Looking forward for the ending.

My inner fangirl is singing right now ^.^



Yuuki initiated has re-united with Kaname, who has been revealed to be NOT EVIL (I called it ^.^ though the part about Aido-dono being alive came as a pleasant surprise to me) and that everything he has been doing he has been doing for Yuuki (I called that one too ^.^), and Yuuki initiated a kiss with Kaname o.o



She's gotten so bold with him, that kiss and how she spoke to him it's clear now that she definitely sees him as her equal. And then the sex scene (and no this doesn't make Yuuki a slut or a whore as that would imply that she is selling her body for money a.k.a. prostitution also Kaname is the ONLY guy she has slept with as of yet in the manga), I know some people have said it doesn't really feel magical but when I went back and looked at the toning and paneling I have to say I disagree, it is magical but at the same time sad (hence Yuuki crying) because both plan to sacrifice themselves for the other.



Now flipping back to Yuuki stealing Zero's memories, I have never liked Zero but I do feel a bit sorry for him in this case. Yuuki didn't have the right to steal his memories of her but at the same time I can understand Yuuki's line of thinking. Zero was already insatiably thirsty because of her, and that's when she's alive and there to help him, but if she sacrifices herself like she plans to there will be no way to sate his thirst, he will basically be starving until the day she dies. She did him a kindness. And it wasn't like she didn't feel guilt or sorrow about it, she cried over him when she had finished.



Anyways, I can't wait to see what happens next, the next chapter can't come soon enough.