Vampire Knight Chapter 89 Discussion

I just had to post something here after reading this chapter. I was a true Zeki fan, even holding out after November's chapter. But this, all I can say is good riddance. Please Zero, don't try to remember her. It's not good for your health, both physically and mentally

Zero's purpose in the story is to cater to girls who like this kind of cool tsundere world on your shoulders tragic character =P Kaname's purpose is the love story element provided and for girls who like sweet and lonely characters you just want to hug forever. Fans fall in love with either of them through Yuuki's interaction.



Yuuki's purpose is to let Zero fans have some satisfaction by connecting to him, and also for Kaname fans to have satisfaction with her connection to him as well.



It is a well crafted plot catered to make us fangirl nonstop til the end, that is for sure. Look at each time Yuuki goes back to Zero, it's not because she's a bitch and forgotten about Kaname, it's a device used to give some love to Zero fangirls. Nothing more =p



Hino's discrete way of saying "I haven't forgotten about you" but in the end the plot is hers, just as Kaname is her choice of male protagonist and partner to the main character Yuuki. It's been obvious to me since the start that Zero appeals to mass western fangirls of this manga, and I'm not sure who the Japanese girls prefer, maybe someone can educate me on that if they had a popularity poll or such... so it's unfortunate that Hino's preferred choice doesn't cater to alot of western girls who follow this series.

Orulyon said:
...(dunno if she is crying because she is losing her virginity or if its because she knows that might be the last time she will be with Kaname since she has plans to die in his place).



OHH NO!!! Why does she plan to die in his place? What would that solve? ;___; </3

IchigoHollowfi said:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

OOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Zero x Yuuki forever! ;    A    ;

I totally feel this way....

UGHHHHHHH!!



Damn, just when I thought I knew what was going on...

>.>

I really thing it was cruel how she took his memories away...

-in a mufasa voice- ZERO YOU MUST REMEMBER!!! REMEMBER!!! lol



ahem....

Narutowolf77 said:
ragingx said:




So you don't mind me using Yume? Its just easier to type and its also the one I've been running into the most on forums like these.



Now see to me it would seem that he's referring to the ancestress because of the 'this time I want to keep protecting this warmth' as in he failed with the ancestress thus  in Yuuki he sees a second chance.



Whatever floats your boat :)



Hmm, it could be possible that he's actually referring to both simultaneously. As in he's mixing the memories of them together in his head, that actually seems more likely than him clearly referring to one or the other as he doesn't remember his past and Yuuki and the Ancestress are similar. It's been known to happen to people (I once thought a scene I had read in a book was from a manga because my mind had mixed together a dream I had had about reading a manga about the book and the actual memory from the book o.O).

Well I guess but tbh I really do think he's truly in love with the ancestress, and don't worry I'm not going to try to make a huge list or anything about it just stating my own personal opinion on it. If you think about this then even if Hino does go a route that involves Kaname's death then he can still have a happy ending, a light of hope for Kaname fans I think (well the ones that have a bad feeling in regards to what will happen to him)?



Hmmm I usually don't mix up stuff like manga stories, god love being a writer as imo this is what trained my mind in this regard, but it does occasionally happen where I'll swear x event happened in x story (and will argue it into the ground) then find out that it was a completely different manga. Luckily I don't dream or at least don't remember them so no mix ups in there xD and I'm rambling cause that was basically it unless you have something else you want to talk about? xD As long as its not degrading to Zeki or Zero I can be civil its when these two are looked down on or degraded that I get riled (assuming you didn't notice this but I dunno)



Completely unrelated note: I finally figured out how to do the bloody signature xD

I'm happy cause I don't want Zero to end up with Yuuki. He deserves much better.

AmrodAegnor said:
I'm disappointed, Hino-sensei. No, actually I'm pissed. Seriously. That was just cruel.



I'm rooting for Yori-chan, she's a good girl. Just not Maria, I don't like her attitude, she's not much better than Yuuki, obsessing over some guy all the time.



Go kill yourself for Kaname, Yuuki. And Kaitou was right, that was the epitome of pureblood selfishness. Well, you reap what you sow.



That's it for me, I'm putting this manga on hold until it's over. I can't stomach the Yume flirting that is about to ensue for dozens of chapters. Again.



Agreed, what a nightmare, cant believe Yuki and kaname are now 100% together and Zero has no memories.

This sucks.



I think I can agree that I dont want to see the Yuki Kaname love fest. No interest in that at all.

SO I dont no if I will read until its finished either. At least that way I can finish it in one swoop rather than painfully wait each month for more Yuki Kaname rubbish.

ragingx said:
Mooniechick said:




As I see it, both you and I are seeing what other Zero fans wants to deny; the fact that Yuuki loves Kaname. It doesn't matter if her feelings for him is less or more than for Zero, it is enough for her to sleep with him. Yeah, it sure was a big pain seeing her together in bed with Kaname, but at the same time I am not surprised, her connection with him is too strong both physically and mentally. (Yeah, they are after all SIBLINGS (yuck) and he had to be the one saving her those many years ago, making her fawn over him well into her teens)





Just a few things I want to address in this:



1) Its not about whether she loves Kaname enough to sleep with him (I'd say both he and Zero have earned this potential) its about the fact that he should have stopped her since its very obvious that she isn't in the state of mind to be deciding this.



2) He's actually like her great great great great great grandfather or w/e (ancestor for short) and this really doesn't factor in as a) they're vampires thus not genetically at risk through this and b) this just feels artificial like it was thrown in for some weird reason but I dunno maybe its just how I see it though tbh I could care less about any incest



1 ...I can only answear this with three words; Kaname is selfish. No but seriously, greifsex is common nowadays. Haven't you seen Days of our lives Ejami? If you have, then you get what I mean.



2 My point was that they are strongly bounded, regardless if its by blood or feelings.