Vampire Knight Chapter 89 Discussion

Okay so I was lying in my bed this morning doing some thinking about the chapter, analyzing it and such and I came up with something, just a different perspective on the chapter, it's Yume centric rather than Zeki centric (which makes Yuuki look like a wishy-washy, indecisive, insensitive girl with a Kaname "obsession") and it kind of puts Yuuki in a better light. All I ask is that you be a little open minded and don't let your rose colored shipping glasses cloud your vision. I'm not saying you have to like Yume just read this from a neutral position.



Chapter 87 - Since this chapter came out I've always thought of it as the moment when Yuuki finally made up her mind about who she loves more.



She clearly states she does love Zero:



Chapter 87 Page 40



There's more to it then that as the chapter ends with a 'But I ...':



Chapter 87 Page 41



This, as of now, has been left up to the reader's interpretation a few examples of what it could be:



"But I need to stop Kaname."



"But I can't be with him because I belong to Kaname."



"But I can't be with him because I'm a vampire."



"But I love Kaname more."



The one that best fits into my theory is "But I love Kaname more." having this be the end of the statement would help to explain Yuuki's actions in chapter 88 when she speculates on whether things would have been different had her and Zero been humans and Kaname her brother. If she loves Kaname more this would make sense because she's wondering if she would have chosen Zero and if they could have been together had circumstances been different, would she have even come to like him. But it's speculation, not reality, meaning because she's asking 'what if' it isn't the way things really are. She then decides to erase Zero's memories and announces that the only way to stop Kaname is to make him human.... wait, what? A few chapters ago she was saying she was going to kill him, why would she suddenly change her mind and decide to make him human? It's not like it would be any easier than killing him as she would still have to catch him. However it would make sense if she has decided she can't bring herself to kill him because she loves him. She has already tried twice and failed plus if she really wanted to kill him you would think she would be carrying the artemis and would have brought it out immediately when she saw him at the party wouldn't you? But she didn't, she reached for him instead:



Chapter 88 Page 18



Then comes chapter 89 when she reunites with Kaname again and finally learns why he has been doing everything. I know some people think she was upset because of what happened with Zero and that's originally what I thought too, and I still think it's part of it, but she doesn't mention Zero in her internal dialogue whenever she gets clingy and starts to cry she's thinking about how she plans to turn Kaname human:



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Of course Kaname doesn't know what she's thinking, nowhere in the manga has it been stated that he can read minds. He most likely assumes Yuuki loves Zero more, this is supported by the fact that he knew before that she craved Zero's blood and because he said that she didn't laugh from the heart:



Chapter 89 Page 37



Meaning his view is biased and he even says he should have entrusted her to Zero sooner as though Yuuki would have been happier this way:



Chapter 89 Page 35



And then it's Kaname, not Yuuki, who says she doesn't know where her heart belongs:



Chapter 89 Page 40



But as stated before Kaname can't read minds and while he can make guesses those guesses will be biased based off of what he thinks he knows.



This kind of puts Yuuki in a better light because it means she isn't being flippity-floppity but rather she's made up her mind and it's just Kaname assuming that she hasn't, it would also mean that she did choose him as the one she wants before having sex with him.



Anyways that's all I have, just wanted to share this since so many people are hating on Yuuki right now even though we don't know all the details (too many biased Zero fangirls -.-) and I don't think it's fair to her as a character because she's a bright, beautiful, strong young woman. Even if this theory is wrong I still don't think it's fair to hate on her, we all make mistakes, Yuuki would be a complete mary sue if she never made any. :)

Well chapter 89 was a big disappointment <--- that is an understatement



I'm still pissed at Yuki. Imo, she would have been more "forgiveable" for taking Zero's memories if she had taken everything. Before people start ranting about this post, read that sentence again. I NEVER said that erasing Zero's memories is acceptable. NEVER. I'm just saying that if she was planning on erasing Zero's memories, why would she only erase the ones that he cherished?



If she was going to take his memories, she should have at least taken both the good and the bad. That way he can start over completely. The only reason that Zero had the will to live (especially with everything that's happened) is because he was in love with Yuki and that he wanted to kill all pure bloods. So now that he doesn't even have memories of Yuki, he's just a killing machine with no other purpose.



Kaname, Yuki, and Izaya are the only pure bloods left (iirc). Kaname is trying to kill himself by becoming the parent, Yuki is trying to kill herself to turn Kaname into human, and Izaya is probably also going to die for some other reason. So once they're all gone, what's Zero's purpose? Nothing. Other people would move on and find something else but Zero can't. He's had everything taken away from him and doesn't have anyone to love so when those three idiots finish their business, his only choice is to kill himself.



Read this if TL;DR --> Bottom line: Yuki made everything worse by putting Zero in the absolute worst position. Actually, scratch that. She didn't just put him there, she pushed him there. <-- Read this if TL;DR

Just finished reading. Glad to see I'm not the only one confused and disappointed. Mostly, I just feel really bad for Zero. The fact that Yuki immediately turns around and sleeps with Kaname is just simply adding insult to injury. If Zero x Yuki ever happens again (which I don't want anyways), I really hope he never finds out, because that's just too cruel.

somehow I don't believe Zero forgot Yuki for real ...

his words here http://www.mangahere.com/manga/vampire_knight/v16/c089/14.html

his words are so focused on "There are no reasons why a vampire I don't know would be concerned about my health"

and his face in the lower right panel shows a painful expression ...



whatever. As long as it comes to an end. =3="

Polychronicon said:
I have a feeling Zero will most likely catch Yuuki and Kaname together and his memory will start to come back.



Hope not because that would be a horrible way for him to remember but its just a feeling.



Ohhh man, that would that be bad. Yuki would really start regretting her decision then.

Twinklysmile said:
I haven't been this disappointed in a chapter like this in ages. I'm a huge Zero fan/Zeki so yeeaaaah this pissed me off. I can't believe Yuki just took away Zeros memories and then straight afterwards got in bed with kaname. WTF. When I thought Yuki was finally getting her act together and that finally she was going to do something about this and then this happens... I hope Zero never remembers her.... Man the frustration >_<



Stuff Zeki. Zero just move on and get somebody better than her.



Worst case scenario for this manga: Yuki get pregnant has a baby and then Zero falls in love with it... *cough*Twilight*cough* Welcome to my world the when I read that chapter or if I try to re-read it again. The rage boils and I have to dive into something else for awhile. Personally I want her to become human and revert back to how she was in the past and actually grow up this time now that Kaname will be gone.



If she does get pregnant I hope Zero tosses her on her rear if she even thinks of approaching him. She can deal with the consequences of her idiotic actions.

@Kaname_NA



If this were the case I'd be a bit disappointed in Yuuki, which tbh is recurring theme with her not to try to bash her but its how I honestly feel. Who cares what others think of her? She should be as she wants not how the arrogant and self-centered vampire nobles, with a few exceptions ofc, think she shoud be. I mean look at Juuri in the past, she was beautiful and elegant but didn't conform to anyone's expectations and Haruka never tried to change her. He accepted her as she was and loved her as such, one of the reasons I love this couple so much.



Well Hino is entitled to her opinion though I highly disagree with her in that I think she should truly be with Zero. If Hino is going to go down this path the least she can do imo is start to build Zero x Maria or even Zero x Yori (her fiance can disappear for all I care xD) cause its truly unfair to not have him be at least somewhat happy after all the events that have happened. He won't be truly happy, as I believe that Yuuki is the only one that can accomplish this, but I think he could at least not be miserable (and tbh I kinda like Maria and Yori more than Yuuki as they both notice Zero's feelings, loyalty, and devotion while.) Here's hoping that the next whatever amount of chapter are left, heard 3-4 and all the way up to 6-8 so I dunno what to guess, won't be solely focusing on Kaname and Yuuki. I'll choose to think of the manga as ending at 88 if this does go for the Kaname x Yuuki end but that's not to say anything about the manga (or KanaYuu) its just how I'd rather remember it, the kiss at the ball will forever be my favorite scene since I get what it means to Zero and that he finally gets to show how he really feels making the scene shine even brighter and makes my heart beat faster because of the emotion I feel there being someone that has issues expressing his feelings too.





@Yozora_Hikari



I really just feel that it was just half-thought out. Too much of a shift in one chapter effectively imo 'flipping the script'. And I hate how Kaien's intelligence was degraded in the chapter =.= Not to mention that all the main characters development (for like the last +5 chapters) got set back. Yuuki is back to being submissive and forgiving to Kaname (after finally showing some actual will during the previous +5 chapters), Kaname is back to being just a single-minded guy rather than having a grander reasoning, and Zero has been set back to hating all vampires (after finally admitting that he can/does love a indeed love a vampire). And I really just don't get the feeling that the memory erase is going to hold as I feel that Zero's will + love for Yuuki will break out of it, at least this is how I would do it in my stories but then again I don't do LT's as I prefer focusing on a single pair romance but multiple pairings. And I swear if Shiki x Rima and Ruka x Kain aren't made official by the end I may rage to no end xD

Orulyon said:


She wants to make Kaname human (like her mother did with her, by giving her life to make her human). Like that Yuuki will stop Kaname from becoming the new parent.



So.. in the end... this anime is just DOOMED to having a happy, perfect ending right? T__T </3