Shijou Saikyou no Deshi Kenichi Chapter 582 Discussion

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  • #10
Jure said:
AfterGlow said:
Forever_A said:
AfterGlow said:
Did this horrid, sexist garbage finally get cancelled? Wonderful ^^



Why some people thinks that if a manga ends it's because it was cancelled?



Because they've read Bakuman or have learned about how the Manga Industry works some other way. It's all about money, the publishers will milk a property for all it's worth, until the sales of the tankubons, ergo the profit, starts to dwindle. Once the decline is statistically a fact, the author will be given a number of weeks to wrap his story up (which is what is happening with Bleach right now), as the manga is "renewed" for further publication at certain points correlating to the number of chapters produced (the original run is 20 chapters to determine if a new manga is going to be kept or cancelled as an example).



Only the biggest names in the industry are ever allowed to finish their stories as they please, and sometimes even being the biggest mangaka in Japan won't guarantee you can end it when and how you please. A good example of this would be Akira Toriyama and Dragon Ball, which he intended to end after Frieza's defeat. However, his editors "talked" him into continuing it for the sake of profit.



When you know how the industry operates, it's easy to spot various signs pointing towards cancellations and such.You are an idiot.



I do not know what kind of expectations you have from manga but both Bleach and HSDK are quite a succesfull hits that earned a lot of money and readers for their companies. If titles like those are ending it's certainly NOT because they are cancelled.



Yeah, the key word being they "MADE" money.



Once a series is way past its prime and the sales starts to considerably drop, the publishers will start to look for the replacement to make more money.



Everybody with even the slightest insight into what goes on in the manga industry KNOWS Kubo Tite has been asked to wrap Bleach up.



Do you seriously think it's a coincidence that Kubo suddenly started the final battle after announcing Bleach was going on for another 10 years? They told him to wrap it up, which he begun to do, before starting another training arc in the middle of things which started another crisis meeting at WSJ, a five week hiatus for Bleach and a restart where Kurosaki has already completed his final training. They prematurely ended the anime for the exact same reason.



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  • #11
Can't really say anything. Originally this series was decent. Over the time it became a fan-service piece of junk with the main plotline being confusing and full of asspulls.
 
  • #12
Gravis said:
DeadZeroSource said:
so the whole series is just about kicking YAMI's butt?

And showing people's butts too.

and oh yeah...don't forget boobs man... xD
 
  • #13
Damn so it really is ending. T_T



I just knew something was fishy the moment Senzui died so fast last week, and he was the main power source for Yami.



Still pretty awesome chapter, and I'm happy with how things turned out (Kushinada and Ogata, my favorite 2 Yami members are, still on the run woooo)



I really hope the big announcment is either a time skip (so we get to see Kenichi in his mid to late 20's, going on his Master journey), on an anime to cover everything nicely.



Looking forward to the finale T_T
 
  • #14


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                        And the Elder lived. Last chapter next week. I can't help but feel this ending was rushed a bit, but at least we're getting an epilogue. I'll be sad to see this series go. :(
 
  • #16
Forever_A said:
AfterGlow said:
Forever_A said:
AfterGlow said:
Did this horrid, sexist garbage finally get cancelled? Wonderful ^^



Why some people thinks that if a manga ends it's because it was cancelled?



Because they've read Bakuman or have learned about how the Manga Industry works some other way. It's all about money, the publishers will milk a property for all it's worth, until the sales of the tankubons, ergo the profit, starts to dwindle. Once the decline is statistically a fact, the author will be given a number of weeks to wrap his story up (which is what is happening with Bleach right now), as the manga is "renewed" for further publication at certain points correlating to the number of chapters produced (the original run is 20 chapters to determine if a new manga is going to be kept or cancelled as an example).



Only the biggest names in the industry are ever allowed to finish their stories as they please, and sometimes even being the biggest mangaka in Japan won't guarantee you can end it when and how you please. A good example of this would be Akira Toriyama and Dragon Ball, which he intended to end after Frieza's defeat. However, his editors "talked" him into continuing it for the sake of profit.



When you know how the industry operates, it's easy to spot various signs pointing towards cancellations and such.



Yeah. Like Bakuman is a great reference, specially when they're talking about only one magazine and of a different publisher, the most competitive and closed of all.



And my problem with the term "cancelled" is the concept.

Being cancelled implies that the manga have stuff to show and the author wants to work, but the magazine simply cuts it. Like if they're firing the mangaka.



And by the way you put your words is like the only manner of end a manga is cancelling it.

But, if the mangaka wants to finish the story, the magazine says "no" and wants to milk the manga and later the manga have a decline and is finished. Do you still say that he is being cancelled? I don't think so.



And definitely you're wrong when say that only the biggest names are allowed to finish their stories. There are tons of differents mangas that are allowed that. The more artistic ones, seinen, josei, of smaller magazines, but they exist.



And the magazine that publishes HSDK is the industries second biggest and most competitive one, shows how much you know.



Unless the author is given all the time he is needed to wrap a story up at his own pace and the way he always intended it to end at the point he and only he intended it to end, it's cancelled.
 
  • #17
I'm glad it's finishing I had no idea I thought it could still be years away from that. At least I can finally finish it now and get it out the way.



No more desperate fan service yay.
 
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