Berserk Chapter 350 Discussion
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- #19
I think what farnese and schierke see on that peek will shake them to the core, but also unite them all. At the same time i can see farnese' heart breaking a little because she knows of guts relationship. I hope she doesnt try to sabotage casca's mind
I think deliberately trying to sabotage Casca mind would be some pretty severe character regression. She doesn't strike me as a person who would ever do something like that. Especially after learning about the Eclipse. NotAPeanut said:
So Casca said she wanted to meet someone. Considering all the foreshadowing we were given, I'm kinda worried the person she's referring to might not be Guts.
If it's not Guts, it's probably her child. If it's not her child, it's probably taking care of sick Griffith. But trust me, it's NOT Femto.
The only reason ANYONE likes Griffith is because their unaware he's a Godhand and instead think he's a messiah. And they think that for VERY good reason, the guy was the hero of Midland and it's most dire time of need, he swoops in against a giant demon god and saves all their lives. Perfectly fulfilling a religious prophecy. He also rises an ancient city from beneath the earth, for good measure.
To Casca, Griffith murdered nearly all their former comrades, decided to be the Commander of a Legion of incomprehensible demons and assaulted her. I don't understand all this "Casca and Griffith" theorist.
- #20
I don't understand all this "Casca and Griffith" theorist.
Me neither. I've seen many claim or worry about that she will join Griffith and forgive him. That would honestly be retarded and make no sense whatsoever.
She probably hates Griffith just as much as Guts do, or pehaps even more so.
- #21
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I like the fact that they got through all the memories in just one chapter. Farnese's and Schierke's reactions to the sex scenes were handled exactly how I expected. Also, Casca spoke for the first time in like... 200 chapters? Next chapter is the eclipse. It will be out on June 23.
- #22
LunaLena said:
IF she regains her memories, IF she's able to process them rationally, and IF she becomes like her old self again, I don't see why she wouldn't think Griffith needs to be stopped. She, Guts, and Rickert are the only humans who know what Griffith is truly capable of, and I think that would motivate her to do something about him. I agree she probably would not want Guts to go down a revenge-filled path of self destruction, but at the very least, she'll want to do something.
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I think it's extremely unlikely she'll ever want to join Griffith again (at least I hope not, and I will consider her character ruined if she does), but I think it wouldn't be unfeasible that she'd want to at least confront him face-to-face before deciding.
Again, I think it's quite possible she will go to see Griffith to CONFRONT him, not to join him. Rickert did, after all. He had to see for himself. And until she simply broke, Casca was never one to shy away from hard truths either.
As for Griffith being her child in the sense that her corrupted fetus is part of him, therefore in a spiritual and not purely biological sense, tell me this: if he is not, why did Miura include it? For funsies? He could have just had that giant egg thing hatch and give birth to Griffith, no corrupted Guts/Casca baby needed. I had to go back and read that part again to remember exactly what happened (it's at the end of volume 20, if you want to check it out), and now I'm questioning if Griffith would have been even re-born if the fetus had not become part of the egg. The egg said that his wish was to be the egg of a new world, not to birth the savior of a new world. He then finds the weakened fetus and eats it. The images here and then later in volume 21 when Griffith is re-born imply that Griffith's new body grew out of that fetus - notice that the egg's wish was granted by FIVE "angels," but when the Godhand appear while Guts is fighting Mozgus and the egg hatches, there are only four of them.
As for what purpose this serves, at the very least, Griffith seems incapable of directly harming Casca or Guts. He left them alone when it was probably in his best interest to kill them, since they are the only people likely to oppose and/or expose him. He also seems more protective of Casca than before - when they met in the sword cemetery, he shielded her from flying rubble and left when his presence caused her brand to flare up. The fetus also saved her on more than one occasion. So there is a connection there, but only time will tell if it's significant or not. Of course, at this rate, we'll probably only find out in about 50 years or so, when Berserk is being written by Miura's preserved head in a jar.
ashfrliebert keeps asking "what would be the point." I dunno, does there have to be one other than "Miura decided to draw out the story even more"? What was the point of Casca starting to show warmth towards Guts again at the end of the Conviction arc, only to make her shun him even more immediately afterwards when the beast compels him to attack her? There are plenty of times in Berserk when things could have gotten better but got worse instead. That's why, although I would love for something to go right (or at least easy) for Guts for once, I'm not particularly optimistic about it.
- #23
ashfrliebert said:
To Casca, Griffith murdered nearly all their former comrades, decided to be the Commander of a Legion of incomprehensible demons and assaulted her. I don't understand all this "Casca and Griffith" theorist.
Logically you're right but never understimate people's ability to do the same/some/worse mistake(s) because emotions/feelings/memories. In my opinion I can understand if she still is into Griffith even with that rape in the eclipse, at the end all depends of the mangaka.
Griffith is DEAD, he's now an emotionless demon by the name of Femto, who's ruling his kingdom on top of the dead corpses of the only family she's ever had. Emotions/feelings/memories should repulse her. You realize she would basically be having drinks with someone who ISN'T actually the person she loved anymore (emotionally), WITH the very same apostles who ate her other comrades. Under the banner of those very comrades.
Casca didn't make any mistakes by sticking with Griffith, she thought she would be taking care of the sick, dismembered figure of her former leader and hero, not have her comrades eaten alive, raped and have her child turned into a demon and have her comrade literally die in her arms.
Casca going back to her rapist who murdered her friends doesn't make sense in any circumstance whatsoever. She wouldn't even be able to be near him because of the brand. It doesn't logically or emotionally make sense. Going back to Griffith *now* isn't even slightly, a little bit similar to anything she's ever done.
- #24
Farnese's reaction to Guts dicking Casca was pretty expected. I hope that she doesn't betray Guts/Casca, that would make me really sad.
I'm guessing the person Casca wants to meet is her child, although that is technically Griffith right now. It could be Guts, Griffith/Femto or her child, but I feel like her child is what would make sense.
Eclipse flashbacks incoming. How long has it been since we had a couple of pages surrounding the Eclipse?
Loving all the dream chapters so far. Hope they continue to be of this quality.
Next chapter June 23.
- #25
I like the fact that they got through all the memories in just one chapter. Farnese's and Schierke's reactions to the sex scenes were handled exactly how I expected. Also, Casca spoke for the first time in like... 200 chapters? Next chapter is the eclipse. It will be out on June 23.
I am actually little bit surprised we don't go like one chapter for one memory at time.