Naruto Chapter 679 Discussion
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Well in my opinion no. I agree that i am not liking the direction this series is going, but you have to be real and true to your self. All the time you have invested into the many awesome characters, the plot, the action, etc. Where it chose to derail into this dbz fest, is i guess based on your assumption of when you thought the story went to shit. But regardless, the manga as a "whole" is still very solid. Other wise people would not have invested this much time into this manga or series.
Yeah its very disheartening especially if your a huge fan to see one of your favorite shonen's be reduced to this. But that is one of the major challenges of a long running shonen, finding a conclusive and coherent ending is very challenging for a writer to pull off for a project of this magnitude.
But even then, ill never forget naruto and even if it has a shitty ending, it still remains one of my favorite shonen's that i am sure i will watch time and time again into the future and pass it on down the generations for years to come.
My only hope at this point is that it DOES have a satisfying conclusion.
- #38
Zeus97 said:
DrGeroCreation said:
Absolutely terrible chapter. This chapter completely ruins Madara as a villain because it makes him nothing but a pawn that was manipulated just like Obito. White zetsus earlier in the series were said to be imperfect clones of the first hokage but now all of a sudden they are related to the Infinite Tsukuyomi. This reveal makes it predictable how the fight will end. Sasuke and Naruto will most likely fuse together and become the sage of the 6 paths the same way Madara and Black Zetsu fused to become Kaguya and he will take her down.
Maybe that is all he was. A pawn, but an incredible one at that.
It was said before that those clones were made from Hashirama cells but who knows if it was a lie. We don't know for certain if it's the truth. Maybe all this time they were somehow related to the infinite tsukuyomi. Maybe in future chapters we get further explanations. The manga is coming to its end, and I don't think Kishi wants his manga to end with plot holes. lol I really hope so. He really needs to fully explain everything in the coming chapters because the reveal made no kind of sense. The white zetsus being imperfect clones of Hashirama made perfect sense considering they are plant like, when Orochimaru took over one of the white zetsus 2nd hokage if I remember correctly could sense that Orochimaru was made up of the 1st hokage's cells and Tobi implied that first Hokage cells were used to create the zetsu army considering he showed Kabuto the cultivation of Hashirama's cells which looks like a humanoid version of him connected to the tree. White zetsus being connected to the infinite tsukuyomi to me makes no sense at all.
You're forgetting the fact that Hashirama's power and cells originated from the God-tree. He is a descendent of Hagoromo, who is the son of Kaguya, who in turn ate the Chakra fruit from the Shinju. Furthermore, he is also one of the reincarnations Ashura's will transmigrated to overtime. Added to the fact that the Shinju as well as the Infinite Tsukuyomi are pretty much linked, it makes perfect sense. It's quite obvious that the Zetsu predated both Madara and Hashirama. Obito...or Madara or whoever created them just used a shortcut by taking advantage of Hashirama's mokuton abilities and harvesting them like that. Or else they would have had to wait until they pulled of the genjutsu to use the Zetsu. All in all, it makes perfect sense.
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Ryukatsuka said:
At this point, considering the fact that we know next to nothing about her, that theory might be a bit far-fetched. But I was thinking something similar. What really motivates Kaguya to do all this? The Infinite Tsukuyomi? All these soldiers (Zetsus) that she is preparing for something, even the Chakra fruit. Why did she eat it? What's driving her to do all this?
Kaguya really doesn't have any need for soldiers to fight for her. Madara was pretty much invincible and it's been made clear so far that she is on a WHOLE new level when it comes to power. So that rules out the possibility that she's cultivating soldiers for violent purposes. While reading the chapter, I recalled how Hagoromo stated that she was from a faraway land and that she wasn't originally from the Shinobi world. And this is where I thought of something. What if her old civilization was destroyed....or something along those lines and she came to this world, to eat the Chakra fruit and recreate that old civilization, or at least a similar one. Her and Madara's dreams were similar in the fact that they both wanted to create a perfect world, but her reasons maybe more legitimate than his. I don't know if you noticed, but in this chapter she said a particular comment that caught my attention. She used the word "Nursery" when describing the place they were in and said she didn't want to destroy the land any further.
That doesn't seem like a person who is raising an army, it seems like someone raising a family. Furthermore, she's collecting and absorbing everyone's Chakra so this would mean she's planning something on a large scale....kinda like the Edo tensei where you need the genetic data of a person as well as Chakra to revive them. I don't know....I'm just speculating here, but a very much recurring theme in Naruto has been cultivating and making a better world for the newer generation, that's the reason why people like Minato, Jiraiya, Sarutobi and Itachi all died, by sacrificing themselves for the newer generations to live more peacefully. Kaguya might be up to the opposite here since she is the antagonist, She wants to sacrifice everyone for her old world, and to recreate that world she needed the fruit, tremendous amounts of chakra and a lot of time, which may explain why she was quiet all this time inside Zetsu. In a way she's similar to Sasuke, they're both stuck in the past. If her, Naruto and Sasuke have a conversation sometime about the world and all their individual motivations, it should definitely prove interesting.
That actually makes a lot of sense. But the soldiers bit is still throwing me off because of how it's stated by Black Zetsu that they will be soldiers for battle. But then he does say the transformation in White Zetsus happens slowly over time, so it won't be right away, or at least that's what I'm understanding. If, going by your theory, she creates this world she wants to create, perhaps if there's some kind of need for militant powers, that's what they'll be for? If she doesn't want to do some things for herself...?
I don't know...
I don't even know what to think anymore.... I'm so confused. ಠ_ಠ
I hope we get answers to about like the few weeks or so...
Hmm... Black zetsu said that himself not kaguya. Then again if he's her will so to speak then he'd know what she was planning. This little fact could indeed enforce my speculation on her trying to find someone and start a intergalactic war. That doesn't sound like naruto... What have you done Kishi!?
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