Bleach Chapter 651 Discussion

nemya said:


Sure, she could resist the Reiatsu of a Base Yama by now, but current Lille just beat a senior captain, that means his current Reiatsu is greater than Base Yama's.

i totally forgot but, Quincies only absorb reiatsu,they do not emit reiatsu like shinigamis do,so nanao cannot feel lilles reiatsu anyway.The absorb Reishi, which is the particles the use for their powers (like Uryu absorbed the surroundings in his fight with Mayuri). And AFAIK Reiatsu is pretty much aura. So I don't think those two go hand-in-hand.

Morcombe said:
super convenient god killing sword from nowhere, oh well I like it anyway lol.

Well it is to be expected in this series..



So will Shunsui die if him and Nanao get together ?

ichii_1 said:


1) maybe, but it will be revealed when we learn the truth about the soul king, and the elites are more ability based they are not shinigami.

But the SK's power is strictly in Yhwach, Lille powered-up via the rest of the SRs powers.



2) tousen used the zanpakuto of the girl he loved and kenpachi stealing one also.

And? Tousen had decades to train the Zan as evident with his use of Bankai; Kenpachi stole a Zan and also used it for decades.



3) even if she doesn't show up it doesn't interfere with anything.

It interferes with the story. She was his VC back in TbtP, which happened centuries after he was in the Academy -- and it only makes sense that this flashback happened before he entered the Academy. So what I'm getting at is: why would Nanao be a child in TbtP when she was born when Shunsui was still a teenager?



5) fought the head captain and a zan especially for weakening gods, yeah...

Trust me, the way the Elite SR's are going down (Nemu and now Nanao), Momo is definitely gonna play a pivotal role in that fight. Bankai Shinji will stomp -> Vollstandig Thor is gonna stomp -> Plot-twist Momo is gonna win.



6) lille is a quincy not a shinigami, they mainly manipulate reishi and I doubt he's anywhere near 2 armed yamamoto level in terms of reiatsu.That was Base Yama's Reiatsu though. The Reiatsu of an Elite SR's Vollstandig should be easily senior captain level.

nemya said:


i don't fully understand it either,but from what we have seen so far gods in bleach are like  beings who the souls in soul society pray to,Mimihagi (the soul kings right hand)is a god too. But how does Lille relate to either of that?

and why does she have to?She was just Shinsuis vice captain,she have her own zanpakuto, she's not related to this family.

Because she was his VC back in TbtP, which happened centuries after he was in the Academy -- and it only makes sense that this flashback happened before he entered the Academy. So what I'm getting at is: why would Nanao be a child in TbtP when she was born when Shunsui was still a teenager?



it appears her fingers got inside the mask,so i guess She used Kageoni to pull the sword from her mask.Ah, so that black thing is a shadow? Makes sense.





That happened a a long time ago,so it is natural to think she developed her abilities since that time.Sure, she could resist the Reiatsu of a Base Yama by now, but current Lille just beat a senior captain, that means his current Reiatsu is greater than Base Yama's.

I don't know why people brought up Lisa. Shunsui can have other Vices and still look after Nanao. Look at Byakuya.



But this is typical bleach, I mean all of a sudden someone has the perfect weapon and counter to the enemy the faced, whom they knew nothing about going in to (so its not like they planned this).



However as others are saying, not really sure how Lille is a "God", hes only a self proclaimed god, much as Aizen was (though Aizen would wipe the floor with this "God"). the only thing that will be important, is not the fact that it only hurts Gods, but that it can't hurt man, so that it must do its damage in another way, and Lille cannot be damaged so yea. The whole God aspect is sort of irrelevant.

Confused if Nanao's Mother had her with Shunshi's brother? making him her Uncle? or did his Brother die Childless....if it is 1st...Nanao Confessed to her Uncle just now?



Well, very nice Background information about Ise Family. and Charge of the Rituals with no Zanpakuto....Nanao get into Vice-captain with her own Skills then. and Sword that can kill Gods but no Man. OP Nanao comming up...ending looked cool

Ramkec said:




Sadly no, its still only you.



/Apex Kek.Keep deluding yourself with that. ;3

Really lame how Kyouraku had to be on the back-burner but oh well.

nemya said:


i checked bleachs wikia ,and they belong to different families,im not sure where you got that,do you have any source?



My bad on this one. The big-sis was a formality , they were just friends.





nemya said:


But aizen wasn't a god at that point,i think they didn't even know about him having a hogyoku in his body that later began slowly turning him into that butterfly god thing,The goteis thought they were going to fight a shinigamis with a bunch of hollows,so why would shunsui think using a sword that only works against gods would be helpful.

also im not sure about nanao being in the battlefield in that battle,i dont remember seeing her in that arc at all.



and last, i agree that this sword thing came out of nowhere,but i think you can still kind of understand it without considering it a plot hole.



Worst case scenario, Aizen wins and becomes the Soul King, aka, a God. So why shouldnd't it be at the hands of it's rightful owner. To me it seems that transcedent Aizen was pretty Godlike. But even if that doesn't cut it then what is a God in this manga? Just Ywach and his fellas? That makes this convenience all the worst.

This sort of felt like it came out of nowhere but it was still cool to see. Never imagined Nanao would get a power up during this fight when it first started.

Wasn't expecting him to be Nanao's uncle, but I like this revelation.

"He was my brother's wife" "the person I've chosen to love"



Two great examples of why people should just stop reading mangapanda's translation. That group has been around for years and still has below average translating skills.