Bleach Chapter 584 Discussion

  • #18
This chapter was ok, 3/5, it was nice to see the various Stern Ritter (but not all of them) approaching Ichigo, it would be interesting to see Byakuya, Shinji, Renji (and maybe the group of Shiba/Fullbringers) to help him, and see him going to Yhwach.

There are also the group of Grimmy/Urhara, but I think we will see them only later, like with Aizen. And I hope Aizen is going to do something big, like ok Quincy boss you've opened the gate to the King Society XD etc etc...



But there are many possibilities for the next chapter, I hope Yhwach isn't going to stole the powers from the other Quincy or something like this...
 
  • #19
HavocParker said:
gbanshee said:
HavocParker said:


Ichigo has never been one to want to kill someone, infact I'm pretty sure outside of fillers the only person he has sort of directly killed was Kugo, and with a right reason to be honest, he wasn't a splendid person. And when "he" inadvertently killed Ulquiorra he didn't seem massively happy about it, a usually recurring theme in most Anime's where the protagonist is usually pure of heart and is never fond of killing someone. Otherwise whats the difference between them and villains?



Ichigo is not the kind of person to kill people. That's just not his character. It goes against his principles to kill anyone, including enemies. Although, Ginjo is an exception. Ichigo was really pissed that one time.



Doesn't make it any less retarded. That shounen cliche is just exploited too much, it doesn't make sense to fight someone and tell them to dodge your attacks. What is even the point. Just stay still and let them beat you up.



HavocParker said:


She DID dodge, but at the very last second, and so only lost her arm. I'm not sure if it's true, but it WOULD make sense, since both Ichigo's words and what ended up happening to Candice's body after avoiding most of the attack seem to imply that Candice would have been WRECKED had she not dodged.



There's nothing to indicate that she dodged, even more - it looks like she is right in the middle of the attack.



And the result?



A CLEANLY cut off arm. Just look at it:



http://i995.mangareader.net/bleach/584/bleach-5000249.jpg



She doesn't even look affected by that attack other than the arm, her clothes intact, no bruises/scars/burns, nothing (and it's clearly an explosion, there is smoke around it during the attack, and then behind her after the attack.



There's no arguing here, it's simply retarded.



The retarded one is your since your complain about the trench that have exits in shounen for a very long time.



Wow, so much for a retort.

The fact that such cliches exist in shounens doesn't mean that you have to use them in every single fucking chapter. No other shounen I know resorts to this shit with such intensity as Bleach does. That's one...

And two, it's just a stupid thing to say. If I criticize a horror movie for using the same horror cliches in every scene, does it make my criticism any less correct and just? Think about it. The demographic has nothing to do with it, you can make a good shounen without repeating same shit all the time. You just need to be a good story teller, not a fashion designer. Sorry Kubo, but stick to the clothes.



The only redeeming quality about Bleach at this time is its character designs. Oh, and the anime music, but that one is on hold for now, so...
 
  • #20
They're all ganging up on him. Still tho he can easily win.
 
  • #21
I will never get the concept of ennemies finishing off each other "just because".
 
  • #23
It's been a while to see ichigo in shikai form for longer than 2 chapters.



I hope the 8 vs. 1 battle will take place without Kubo trolling us by letting Yhwach absorb all their powers.
 
  • #24
This is good news, it might save us from more formulaic overly long dragged out fights if Ichigo can kill them all in one go.



One can hope.
 
  • #25
gbanshee said:
Seriously, this is getting so riddiculously stupid... first of all, a new technique! And it's just a cross-shaped Getsuga Tenshou with changed name. Seriously Kubo, is that all you can come up with? I get it, main characters in Shounens usually have crappy, overused and recycled techniques, but that doesn't mean you have to follow that stupid trend.

Except that Ichigo was given no reason to show anything more powerful so far and he seems completely non-threatened by the current enemies and is clearly holding back A LOT.



And secondly... Ichigo, you fire that thing at her and then tell her to DODGE IT? What are you, a fucking knight saving a damsel in distress? Don't fire shit at people if you don't want them to get hit by it.

Or he simply has on intention of killing quincies, since he is a half quincy and his mom was a quincy, so he simply wants to kill YHWH and find a way to end the war without one side decimating the other?



And last... she gets hit by it, there's a fucking explosion taking up like half of the sky...  and all that happens is that SHE GETS HER ARM CUT CLEAN OFF?

ARE

YOU

FUCKING

KIDDING

ME?



You are talking about a character who casually survived attack of someone's whose flames were compared to YAMAMOTO'S. NOne of those guys are fodder. They might be in comparison of Ichigo, but that does not make them "weak".



It's retarded on so many levels that I can't even compute.

Or you simply fail at reading comprehension.
 
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